Osama Bin Laden dead

[Dohhunter]

Originally Posted by incarcerated

Yes, he’s from California.
Where are the Somali Pirates when you need them?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...pRsraZgwmjCuqI

California man diving for bin Laden's body

By GINGER ADAMS OTIS
Posted: 1:16 AM, June 12, 2011
An eccentric California salvage diver is fishing for proof that al Qaeda overlord Osama bin Laden is really dead.

Bill Warren, 59, has vowed to scour the north Arabian Sea to find the corpse and deliver photographic evidence that he was killed.

Warren, who has discovered more than 200 wrecks, is confident he can find bin Laden's body. American Special Forces killed the jihadist on May 2 in Pakistan....

Let's hope he also finds the mind that he lost.

[mark46th]

Billy L- When bin Laden's son was asked, "Who got shot?!?", he answered,
" My daaaaaaaad!"

[hydrashok]

Mostly old news but still a pretty good read.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by hydrashok

Mostly old news but still a pretty good read.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all

Everytime I read an article concerning this mission I crack up and cannot finish the story.

The part that kills me is twenty-three Navy SEALs from Team Six........

[Geenie]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Everytime I read an article concerning this mission I crack up and cannot finish the story.

The part that kills me is twenty-three Navy SEALs from Team Six........

Sir,

As a civilian I find it hard to tell, from your post I take it that 23 is an exceptionally large number for this type of mission?

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Geenie

Sir,

As a civilian I find it hard to tell, from your post I take it that 23 is an exceptionally large number for this type of mission?

Tell me how many Navy SEALS do you think it would take to kill your grandfather?

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Tell me how many Navy SEALS do you think it would take to kill your grandfather?

How many grandmothers is he allowed?

[The Reaper]

How many grenades do they have?

TR

[Penn]

This is tHe real story according to the NYY


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

How many grenades do they have?

TR

Those are only employed in HR situations.......

[Golf1echo]

I feel like a drink, I'll have one of those OBL's....I mean a "Tap, Tap, Splash".

[Team Sergeant]

Strange the only individual that had (supposedly) direct contact with osama bin laden is about to die in a Paki prison. The individual is being tortured, starved and isolated.

The United States has offered zero assistance, no legal fees, no attorney fees, and no money to the doctor.

Now ask why?

The good doctor is about to die and the current administration, State Dept. CIA etc has offered no help.

Why?

Maybe because it the doctor knows who he was dealing with and it was not osama bin laden but just another 6'5" Pakistani but he was told to say it was osama.

If I wanted to keep a secret of such magnitude I'd let the doctor (that risked his life and family) die in prison too. And I'd make it look/seem that he was a "mistake" that the current administration, State Dept and CIA "overlooked".

Brother says Pakistani doc tortured, appeals to US for legal help
By Dominic Di-Natale
Published May 29, 2012
FoxNews.com

The Pakistani doctor sentenced last week to 33 years in prison for helping track Usama bin Laden suffered torture, isolation and starvation during his interrogation, his brother told Fox News -- as he made an appeal from the family for the U.S. Embassy to help fight his legal case.

Jamil Afridi told Fox News in an interview that the Embassy so far has not reached out to the family of Dr. Shakil Afridi.

The brother said the family wants the U.S. to provide lawyers as well as pay the legal bills -- as questions surround the dubious legal process used to convict Afridi and hand down what amounted to a life sentence. He also said the broader family of roughly 30 people wants asylum in America.

"The blame has been placed on my brother because of America. We are facing a tough time and they should now support us. We should get justice and protection," he told Fox News. "Me, my brother, my family don't have any protection here. When I leave from this place, I don't know what might happen to me. I don't know in which guise someone might come for us. I am afraid of the government agencies, the Taliban and terrorists."



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1wGgKf495

[Streck-Fu]

A different narrative on the OBL killing infers that a Pakistani walk-in to the CIA gave up the location in Abbottabad and that the Pakistanis knew of the raid. It also infers that OBL was a prisoner of ISI at the compound.

Single anonymous source so treat accordingly.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour...sama-bin-laden

It began with a walk-in. In August 2010 a former senior Pakistani intelligence officer approached Jonathan Bank, then the CIA’s station chief at the US embassy in Islamabad. He offered to tell the CIA where to find bin Laden in return for the reward that Washington had offered in 2001. Walk-ins are assumed by the CIA to be unreliable, and the response from the agency’s headquarters was to fly in a polygraph team. The walk-in passed the test. ‘So now we’ve got a lead on bin Laden living in a compound in Abbottabad, but how do we really know who it is?’ was the CIA’s worry at the time, the retired senior US intelligence official told me.

The US initially kept what it knew from the Pakistanis. ‘The fear was that if the existence of the source was made known, the Pakistanis themselves would move bin Laden to another location. So only a very small number of people were read into the source and his story,’ the retired official said. ‘The CIA’s first goal was to check out the quality of the informant’s information.’ The compound was put under satellite surveillance. The CIA rented a house in Abbottabad to use as a forward observation base and staffed it with Pakistani employees and foreign nationals. Later on, the base would serve as a contact point with the ISI; it attracted little attention because Abbottabad is a holiday spot full of houses rented on short leases. A psychological profile of the informant was prepared. (The informant and his family were smuggled out of Pakistan and relocated in the Washington area. He is now a consultant for the CIA.)

‘By October the military and intelligence community were discussing the possible military options. Do we drop a bunker buster on the compound or take him out with a drone strike? Perhaps send someone to kill him, single assassin style? But then we’d have no proof of who he was,’ the retired official said. ‘We could see some guy is walking around at night, but we have no intercepts because there’s no commo coming from the compound.’

In October, Obama was briefed on the intelligence. His response was cautious, the retired official said. ‘It just made no sense that bin Laden was living in Abbottabad. It was just too crazy. The president’s position was emphatic: “Don’t talk to me about this any more unless you have proof that it really is bin Laden.”’ The immediate goal of the CIA leadership and the Joint Special Operations Command was to get Obama’s support. They believed they would get this if they got DNA evidence, and if they could assure him that a night assault of the compound would carry no risk. The only way to accomplish both things, the retired official said, ‘was to get the Pakistanis on board’.

Cont... at link.

[Guymullins]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Strange the only individual that had (supposedly) direct contact with osama bin laden is about to die in a Paki prison. The individual is being tortured, starved and isolated.

The United States has offered zero assistance, no legal fees, no attorney fees, and no money to the doctor.

Now ask why?

The good doctor is about to die and the current administration, State Dept. CIA etc has offered no help.

Why?

Maybe because it the doctor knows who he was dealing with and it was not osama bin laden but just another 6'5" Pakistani but he was told to say it was osama.

If I wanted to keep a secret of such magnitude I'd let the doctor (that risked his life and family) die in prison too. And I'd make it look/seem that he was a "mistake" that the current administration, State Dept and CIA "overlooked".

Brother says Pakistani doc tortured, appeals to US for legal help
By Dominic Di-Natale
Published May 29, 2012
FoxNews.com

The Pakistani doctor sentenced last week to 33 years in prison for helping track Usama bin Laden suffered torture, isolation and starvation during his interrogation, his brother told Fox News -- as he made an appeal from the family for the U.S. Embassy to help fight his legal case.

Jamil Afridi told Fox News in an interview that the Embassy so far has not reached out to the family of Dr. Shakil Afridi.

The brother said the family wants the U.S. to provide lawyers as well as pay the legal bills -- as questions surround the dubious legal process used to convict Afridi and hand down what amounted to a life sentence. He also said the broader family of roughly 30 people wants asylum in America.

"The blame has been placed on my brother because of America. We are facing a tough time and they should now support us. We should get justice and protection," he told Fox News. "Me, my brother, my family don't have any protection here. When I leave from this place, I don't know what might happen to me. I don't know in which guise someone might come for us. I am afraid of the government agencies, the Taliban and terrorists."



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1wGgKf495

If you read my book, Osama's Angel, you will see that the reason the American administration has hung the good doctor out to dry is because he defrauded the Us by scamming the polio program me he was supposed to conduct. He didn't know what the real reason for the program was, so took the opportunity to falsify the figures and doing the whole thing on the cheap so as to maximize the profit he made. This is why America exposed his name and why the Pakistanis are mistreating him. He was happy to collaborate with the US as a spy as far as the Pakistanis are concerned.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Guymullins

If you read my book, Osama's Angel, you will see that the reason the American administration has hung the good doctor out to dry is because he defrauded the Us by scamming the polio program me he was supposed to conduct. He didn't know what the real reason for the program was, so took the opportunity to falsify the figures and doing the whole thing on the cheap so as to maximize the profit he made. This is why America exposed his name and why the Pakistanis are mistreating him. He was happy to collaborate with the US as a spy as far as the Pakistanis are concerned.

Back in the 80's some of us were involved in teaching the Afgan mujahideen to fight against the Russians.

Billions in aid/weapons etc was funneled through Pakistan with only a few million and few weapons etc actually making it to the Afgan mujahideen.

We've known for a very long time the Paki's were nothing but thieves and liars so your information does not even raise an eyebrow here.......