Osama Bin Laden dead

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Utah Bob

Well it's after 5 I think I'll go mix a Bin Laden before supper.

If you'd have let me know earlier, I'd have offered you one...but I took it early this morning after exercising and, after wiping my BHO, flushed it before it stained my Biden. I can save you one tomorrow, though, if you're interested.

Richard

[Utah Bob]

Got one in my hand right now.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Utah Bob

Got one in my hand right now.

Eeewwwwwww......but that 'technique' cost Rick Detrick and I a sure thing one night with two girls at the Crazy Horse in Georgetown. I've been pissed at those bin Laden's ever since.

Richard

[Mr Furious]

Originally Posted by andwerise

NY Times has a photo of part of the wreckage....

andwerise & 69Harley: type was really irrelevant for the point I was driving, unless that type is driven by a flux capacitor

for the purpose of the drill, ~170mph will get you in the ballpark for T=D/R

[andwerise]

Originally Posted by Mr Furious

andwerise & 69Harley: type was really irrelevant for the point I was driving, unless that type is driven by a flux capacitor

for the purpose of the drill, ~170mph will get you in the ballpark for T=D/R

Apologies, I got caught up geeking out and missed the original point.... lol

Although a UH60 with a flux capacitor could prove mighty useful. Forward it up to DARPA, I hear they're running out of ideas to waste money on researching

[andwerise]

.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by andwerise

JSOC Commander is Navy also. This NJ article seems to make some presumptions as to why the Navy got it over the Army (I'm not touching that topic with a ten foot pole on these forums).

If you're gonna troll - you're in the wrong pond. Go phish somewhere else.

Richard

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by Richard

Eeewwwwwww......but that 'technique' cost Rick Detrick and I a sure thing one night with two girls at the Crazy Horse in Georgetown. I've been pissed at those bin Laden's ever since.

Richard

I just do the simple one.
Two shots and a splash of water.

[andwerise]

Originally Posted by Richard

If you're gonna troll - you're in the wrong pond. Go phish somewhere else.

Richard

Trolling not the intent, but point taken. Deleted and Apologies

[koz]

Originally Posted by andwerise

NY Times has a photo of part of the wreckage. Looks like the tali of a 60 to me. The same article describes the mission as having 4 helos. I have seen the number of SEALS at 24, and the NY Times article says 12 SEALS were dropped into the compound.

Also hearing that one of the helos did a soft landing in the compound either due to a mechanical or lift issue. Either way, the NY Times piece says 12 were dropped in, the primary attack force was composed of 2 Helos, with 2 more on standby in case shit hit the fan. One of those came in when one of the primary helos went down to retrieve the crew and SEALS of the downed chopper.

So with a little filling in of the gaps in info, it sounds to me like the op involved 4 helos with 24 SEALS. 2 entered Pakistan, while 2 hung back, presumably in A'Stan, as a backup in case the primary force encountered resistance or other issues. When one of the helos went down, one of the backup choppers came in to retrieve the personnel and continued out of country.

That puts 6 SEALS per chopper on the outset of the mission, and after losing a helo, 18 SEALS between 2 choppers plus the corpse of one UBL. Seems like a load well within the capability and range of a UH60, and the tail wreckage at the compound is assuredly not from a 47.

I am sure it is possible it was an air force bird, but my money is on it being a 60. Tho we all know where it would be from, I certainly wont play with OPSEC on here

Heres the NY times article

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/wo...agewanted=1&hp

And the photo of the wreckage

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...B-INTEL-2.html

EDIT: Not presuming to know any of that for fact. Just trying to read between the lines.

NY Times - Epitome of accurate reporting .

[Dohhunter]

He died "Resisting and unarmed"

Resisting: He was alive. We fucking killed him.

Questions?

/briefing

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by andwerise

NY Times has a photo of part of the wreckage. Looks like the tali of a 60 to me. The same article describes the mission as having 4 helos. I have seen the number of SEALS at 24, and the NY Times article says 12 SEALS were dropped into the compound.

Also hearing that one of the helos did a soft landing in the compound either due to a mechanical or lift issue. Either way, the NY Times piece says 12 were dropped in, the primary attack force was composed of 2 Helos, with 2 more on standby in case shit hit the fan. One of those came in when one of the primary helos went down to retrieve the crew and SEALS of the downed chopper.

So with a little filling in of the gaps in info, it sounds to me like the op involved 4 helos with 24 SEALS. 2 entered Pakistan, while 2 hung back, presumably in A'Stan, as a backup in case the primary force encountered resistance or other issues. When one of the helos went down, one of the backup choppers came in to retrieve the personnel and continued out of country.

That puts 6 SEALS per chopper on the outset of the mission, and after losing a helo, 18 SEALS between 2 choppers plus the corpse of one UBL. Seems like a load well within the capability and range of a UH60, and the tail wreckage at the compound is assuredly not from a 47.

I am sure it is possible it was an air force bird, but my money is on it being a 60. Tho we all know where it would be from, I certainly wont play with OPSEC on here

Heres the NY times article

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/wo...agewanted=1&hp

And the photo of the wreckage

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...B-INTEL-2.html

EDIT: Not presuming to know any of that for fact. Just trying to read between the lines.

Why do you care if it was 24, or 25?

Four birds, or ten?

What possible difference could it make to you?

You have lost the opportunity to be a gray man and have drawn attention to yourself.

I suggest that you stop speculating and posting opinions here.

Immediately.

TR

[DeltaGolf]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

DeltaGolf, your bio says you're a educated man and a military buff.....
Before I say this know that I would fight beside my Brother SEALS to the death, anyplace anywhere anytime.

That said your analogy of Operation Eagle Claw and the Battle of Mogadishu as compared to this operation is ludicrous.

This was a small DA operation, risk factor for the good guys, was very low. Chances for success very high if the old terrorist was indeed there.

Spare me your military analogies.

I am sure the SEALS killed something, just who I'd like to know.
Team Sergeant

Team Sergeant,
Thanks for the input. For the record, I wasn't equating the operations, although I can see how you interpreted it that way. I was merely pointing out the political risk that Obama took authorizing the operation.

As a civilian, an operation that involves entering foreign soil without informing the local government, storming a compound, and capturing or killing the America's most wanted criminal seems like a very high risk operation, albeit relatively safer than Eagle Claw or Mogadishu. Obviously, I must defer to your expertise here that this was a low risk, high success mission.

What would it take for you to accept that the person the SEALS killed was actually Bin Laden? I'm really not trying to start an argument.

[tommytom11]

big congrats and thank you to the exceptional men involved in this

[DeltaGolf]

On the assumption that I'm not the only person who missed this:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/237877/the...?from=fb_share