04-17-2011, 16:58
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I dunno, I think I'd rather have a woman sharing my foxhole than some gender confused male. Glad I'm retired...... 
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04-17-2011, 20:14
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LOL!
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I dunno, I think I'd rather have a woman sharing my foxhole than some gender confused male. Glad I'm retired...... |
You would NOT believe the # of males getting their finger nails done and eyebrows arched in Iraq. 
Stay safe.
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04-17-2011, 20:30
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You would NOT believe the # of males getting their finger nails done and eyebrows arched in Iraq.
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04-18-2011, 07:00
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
I dunno, I think I'd rather have a woman sharing my foxhole than some gender confused male. Glad I'm retired...... |
I concur.........
Big Teddy 
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04-18-2011, 08:50
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I'll take a gay competent soldier over a straight idiot in my foxhole anyday Sir.
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Based on what experience?
How many years have you been on active service?
Have you actually ever spent time in a foxhole?
TR
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04-18-2011, 08:59
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I'll take a gay competent soldier over a straight idiot in my foxhole anyday Sir.
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http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/15/ba...l-for-playboy/
Playboy calls the interview “a candid conversation with the maverick congressman about America’s economic crisis, gay rights, the Middle East, and his real problem with the Republican Party.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/15/ba...#ixzz1Jt3wXLDj
I think I'll wait to see what the great and wonderful Barney Frank will have to say about it.
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04-18-2011, 09:07
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Foxhole? Whats up with a foxhole?
Somebody here trying to give the Depue Improved Individual Fighting Position a bad name?
It's been the DIIFP ever since way before mpower was born.
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04-18-2011, 16:18
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Sir I'm basing it on my opinion that a soldiers sexual preference in no way has any affect on their ability to soldier.
Though it might make using french sniping tactics kind of interesting.
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Opinions without experience are dangerous things. Kind of like the utopia of socialism.
Sex affects many human interactions, especially in the age group of young soldiers.
You might want to turn your SA up and start watching where you tread.
Or I can just get you a bigger shovel.
TR
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04-18-2011, 16:49
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Opinions without experience are dangerous things. Kind of like the utopia of socialism.
Sex affects many human interactions, especially in the age group of young soldiers.
You might want to turn your SA up and start watching where you tread.
Or I can just get you a bigger shovel.
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I don't know TR,why is youth wasted on the young?...........
Big Teddy .
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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04-18-2011, 17:02
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Sir I'm basing it on my opinion that a soldiers sexual preference in no way has any affect on their ability to soldier.
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That is usually known as bias. Your statement begs another question: How do you know that a soldiers sexual preference in no way affects their ability to soldier? Been around many homosexuals?
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04-20-2011, 16:30
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environmental hazard?
Another point not readily observable is certain anatomical difference: One gender is more prone to foreign contamination/leakage, the other to plugging. it is what it is. An old marine recon friend told of one training in swampy environment so long and so deep that he literary had growth "down there." Had he been the opposite gender, he believed he would have died from urinary tract infection sequela.
Based on UTI cases that I see here on female soldiers, who already work at a rather clean environment, I wouldn't want to see the aftermath after a few days in the swamp. Of course, any swampy-like portion can always be removed frm Ranger, SEALS, usw training...another double standard can't hurt 
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04-24-2011, 03:02
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Another point not readily observable is certain anatomical difference: One gender is more prone to foreign contamination/leakage, the other to plugging. it is what it is. An old marine recon friend told of one training in swampy environment so long and so deep that he literary had growth "down there." Had he been the opposite gender, he believed he would have died from urinary tract infection sequela.
Based on UTI cases that I see here on female soldiers, who already work at a rather clean environment, I wouldn't want to see the aftermath after a few days in the swamp. Of course, any swampy-like portion can always be removed frm Ranger, SEALS, usw training...another double standard can't hurt |
The problem with women constantly coming down with UTI's has nothing to do with a dirty or clean work environment (I've been in plenty of dirty ones), as much as it has to do with unprotected sex. Most people don't want to acknowledge that. Some people are just nasty. Trust me on that.
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04-24-2011, 06:09
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Women are not physically capable as men are period! I had a CA chick attached to my team in the Stan. Who for some reason was allowed to be a gunner on one of our GMV's every once in a blue moon. By all means she was probably the one of the most in shape women in the military I have seen. Crossfit chick who can max her pt test and physically perform over 95% of the women out there in the military. One day while we were doing maintenance on our weapons and vehicles, me and a buddy asked her to replace a 50 cal can (The 200 RD type in the 40mm ammo can), also not in kit, and we timed it. Needless to say 10 minutes later she was physically unable to do so and never she again touched that gun.
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04-24-2011, 09:31
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gits,
I've seen that event time-and-time-again! I had too threaten an Iraqi male with bodily harm onetime.
"I'll just bow out of this thread before my BP goes sky-high...."
Stay safe.
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04-24-2011, 09:54
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What interesting times we live in. Homo cowpokes and warriors. Rambo broads. Posers galore.
Hey, if you don't have a real birth certificate, does that make you a poser?
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