04-02-2011, 12:55
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Funny... I don't see the Pastor as news.......
This is news..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110402/...as_afghanistan
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04-02-2011, 14:05
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The pastor is a U.S. citizen, in the U.S., exercising his rights under our Constitution. There are two groups to blame here- the people who perpetrated the violence, and those who directed it.
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04-02-2011, 14:24
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Never gonna bring them into the 20th century. Why bother.
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04-02-2011, 15:21
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The Pastor is a self aggrandizing asshat, as is Karzai for stirring the flames. If Jones felt his faith required burning a Koran fine, he could have done it in privacy with no media. He hasn't broken any US laws, nor is he responsible for the barbarism of the insurgents, but Karma isn't protected by the constitution.
The insurgents in Afghanistan try to kill NATO forces at every opportunity and use the locals as shields whether or not some extremist's gesture stirs up the locals. It the entire Afghan populace felt as stipulated, instead of 20 casualties, the entire NATO force in country would be in dire straights real fast. This is a tough situation, and good Americans are paying the price in blood for our freedom over there. America has a national interest in denying Afghanistan to our enemies as a safe haven for future attacks on our homeland, which is the only reason we are there. This serves as yet another humbling reminder our freedom isn't free.
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04-02-2011, 15:35
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Excuses, excuses...
Those who died did not do so because the pastor burned the Quran, though that will be the reason given by both the enemy and the press, but because the savages we are fighting wanted them dead, like they want the rest of us. They would have done the same had the book not been burned...
That said, the pastor is an idiot and should be throat punched.
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04-02-2011, 15:37
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Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion. - S Weinberg
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It has all been said before; maybe somebody burned those books, too, and the message has been lost. Sad.
And so it goes...
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04-02-2011, 16:34
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I have a low tolerance for cowardice. If Terry Jones believes strongly the things he talks about then he should go to Afghanistan and burn it right in the middle of Kabul. But like most people who spend their lives running their mouth he will not go and risk his own. Instead he will put our children and our friends children in harms way and then stand and pray loudly on the street corner so that all may hear how pious he is.
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04-02-2011, 17:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion. - SW
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04-02-2011, 16:59
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Originally Posted by Surgicalcric
That said, the pastor is an idiot and should be throat punched.
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Crip,
Am confused, honestly.
Can you please explain without giving up any OPSEC/PERSEC?
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04-02-2011, 18:13
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I wish someone would start a mass Koran burning. Like hands across America. Let the world see them for what they really are. Sub Human Cowards.
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04-02-2011, 16:40
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Those protesters need to understand that the actions of a intolerant pastor doesn't represent the ideals of a whole nation.
I guess it wouldn't make a diffrence anyway. They still would have killed innocent people that had nothing to do with that POS pastor. Just as Crip stated, they are using what the pastor did as an excuse to justify their own actions.
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