Sig Sauer P229

[99meters]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Aha! The "shoot me first" bag. Most of the cops I know carry off-duty in fanny packs. Big, tactical black ones. Very low profile.

Goes well with the "I'm packing!" photojournalist vest.

It is an option. May or may not be the best one.

TR

A lot of the older guys in my department do the fanny pack thing. These guys also go with the clean shave and the porn-star mustache. You can smell the bacon when they enter a room.
Fanny packs are as low profile as the fisherman (photojournalist) vest, 511 clothing, cargo pants in OD green or Desert tan with hiking boots, ball caps with the U.S. flag on it and a t-shirt that states infadel, and Larue and clock stickers plastered all over your truck.

[Dusty]

IMO Sigs have good controls and accuracy.

Fuck, I could hide a damn 629 if I had to...

[bigdaddy10493]

I carry IWB on the small of my back. Is printing really gonna be an issue with the 229?

[blue02hd]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

My defense for the fanny pack: ,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,That being said, everyone having bashed the fanny pack idea, what are some good alternatives during the summer months? I'm always open to suggestions and trying something new out.

Rock, don't read into our responses or take offense. We are simply providing you what our opinions are, and from I am assessing, sharing with you a different point of view. Situation is ALWAYS part of the decision making process. CCW is as selective and unique as the weapon you are going to carry. Your primary threat will most likely determine the manner with which you select your kit. In the travels many of us have taken, Fanny Packs scream CCW just as as loud as the 511 cargo pants with matching velcro ball caps or a cheap suit with "comfortable shoes".

I agree with one statement however, that is is never smart to underestimate the competition. Considering how expensive firearms are these days, your fanny pack may actually make you more of a target. Who is your threat? 15 year old gangbangers? GF's crazy ex-boyfriend?

What do most beach-going peeps, college aged kids, and tourists normally have with them?

(Que Dora the Explorer theme song please,,,,)

Thats right, a Back Pack. So if you have that urge to don the thong, why not take your trusted gadget filled backpack along for the ride?

There is no perfect answer, because if there were, we'd all be using it, to include that career criminal fresh out of prison who is devoting most of his time to perfecting his skills. And I hear they have thongs in prison too,,,,

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by 99meters

A lot of the older guys in my department do the fanny pack thing. These guys also go with the clean shave and the porn-star mustache. You can smell the bacon when they enter a room.
Fanny packs are as low profile as the fisherman (photojournalist) vest, 511 clothing, cargo pants in OD green or Desert tan with hiking boots, ball caps with the U.S. flag on it and a t-shirt that states infadel, and Larue and clock stickers plastered all over your truck.

"You can smell the bacon when they enter a room."

I think that's the motif I wanna go for.

[rocknrolla]

blue02hd,

No offense taken.

I own a restaurant. It is seasonal and only open in the summer. It's right on the beach. I do bank runs every night and stock my own atm. Who is my threat? I really don't know. The town is a very affluent one, with essentially zero crime short of a few minor shoplifting incidents each year. For this reason, a lot of residents and business owners in the town have their guard down. To me, this makes the place seem like a ripe target.

My CCW is in the fanny pack only to and from work. During the work day, it's stored in a biometrics safe which is very handy at all times. There are other safeguards and security measures in place that don't need mentioning here. I do everything possible to avoid even getting in a situation where drawing a weapon would be necessary. This is my number one goal. I have lobbied successfully to have a dedicated Police officer on foot patrol in the village at all times during the busiest months. (Previously we had only 'meter maids'). I keep my guard up and keep a close eye on anyone who seems suspicious. This includes anyone not wearing shorts and a t shirt, or a bathing suit. Basically standard tourist gear.

In my experience thus far, no one has looked twice at the fanny pack. Most people in my town seem pretty clueless about it. It has worked well for me thus far. I'm always open to learning new techniques though. That's why I'm here. Sorry to hijack the thread. I carry the 229. I've tried several but really like the ergonomics of the Sig. Was just offering up the fanny pack idea as a possible alternative to downgrading to a smaller or different weapon.

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

I own a restaurant. It is seasonal and only open in the summer. It's right on the beach. I do bank runs every night and stock my own atm. Who is my threat? I really don't know. The town is a very affluent one, with essentially zero crime short of a few minor shoplifting incidents each year.

Rock brings up an interesting point about fanny-pac's(FP).

Key West, Capital of the Conch Republic, is a live and vibrant Tourista Zone. Probably 1/3 of the Snow Birds deposited by the cruise ships wear a FP. We can have 5 ships in the harbor on any given day, it about doubles the population.

All crime is down in the county, thanks to a good LEO crew,, but we still have an what seems like an unlimited flow of seasonal transient street peoples from up North, plus assorted petty criminals, and a sprinkling of the Russian Mob from the 90t's.

So, on those occasions when I need to be a tour guide to the In-Laws & Out-Laws,, I wear a FP. It is not my go-to outside of my AO. I use several holsters and/or pockets,, depending on conditions..

[Junglist]

I own/carry a P229, and I personally love it. With just basic maintenance, I've yet to have any problems. What initially sold me on it (after firing it of course) was the ease of the barrel change. I bought it in .40 then picked up a .357Sig barrel later. For those of you that load your own rounds, ammo may not be of much concern. But since I don't , I target shoot with the .40 and carry the .357. I'm 5'10" & 180lbs and wear an in the belt holster on the back of my hip. I generally don't have a problem with concealment, but this may not be the case for everybody. I agree with all of the above that some may have an issue in different weather and with different setups due different body types and the P229 being a little thick. As an all around great weapon, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

I'm not much of a shooter, and don't carry CCW, however one retired LEO/Fed that I know during the cooler months here just keeps his CCW in his front windbreaker or coat pocket (no holster). Never even has to take it out to use it if needed.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sarski

I'm not much of a shooter, and don't carry CCW, however one retired LEO/Fed that I know during the cooler months here just keeps his CCW in his front windbreaker or coat pocket (no holster). Never even has to take it out to use it if needed.

What kind of revolver is it?

Originally Posted by Dusty

What kind of revolver is it?

It's a PPK.

[jbour13]

Originally Posted by Sarski

It's a PPK.

That means it's likely good for one shot.

Dusty was asking a loaded question there. Revolvers function in pockets, autos won't too well.

The clothing is likely to get pinched in the ejection port and keeps it from going through a normal firing cycle. Best of luck in the case he never has to use it.

Originally Posted by jbour13

That means it's likely good for one shot.

Dusty was asking a loaded question there. Revolvers function in pockets, autos won't too well.

The clothing is likely to get pinched in the ejection port and keeps it from going through a normal firing cycle. Best of luck in the case he never has to use it.

Yes, that does make sense. You will have to forgive me, but like I said I am not much of a shooter (though I'm pretty acurate with a rifle). I wonder though, since the PPK is such a small firearm (especially in comparison to the Sig), and this individual has rather large hands, would there be all that much clothing around the weapon?

I guess having the option to do so is available (shoot from the hip while in the jacket pocket, one shot), but still, why take the chance, right? Might also need to be cleaned more frequently due to the lint?

I wouldn't know if Dusty was asking a loaded question or not, I mean I know the difference between what a revolver and a auto or semi auto look like, but that is about it. Just sharing one of the prefered CCW methods of this individual.

Anyways, thanks in advance for your insight.

[The Reaper]

Tips from the tactically inept are hardly pearls of wisdom, except as examples of what not to do.

TR

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Tips from the tactically inept are hardly pearls of wisdom, except as examples of what not to do.

TR

Yes, sir, I definately fall into the tactically inept category. But still I wonder then, why this individual (retired four years ago as a US Marshal) would elect to carry his CCW in this fashion. Is there a tactical advantage to it (versus holstered or in a fanny pack), or is it just not practical?

Please forgive my limited knowledge in these matters and understand that this is one of the reasons I am here (as a guest/asset) on PS.com.