01-10-2009, 21:25
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Originally Posted by perdurabo
Perhaps The Reaper or another Kramer #3 user can answer this, but how (un)comfortable is this holster when sitting on your caboose all day?
My Tucker Gunleather "The Answer" holster has a nice flat soft leather piece that sits against your skin, keeping the signature of the gun from pressing into your side.
I might pick up a Kramer #3 though if they're comfy enough (I carry a full-sized XD-45)
Thanks in advance,
Jake
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Jake:
The #3 is IWB, which I no longer utilize.
I prefer the MSP paddle holster for CCW.
TR
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01-18-2009, 18:11
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Another Cross Breed Holster user
Also went the Cross Breed route that Alelks went with (few posts back).
I recently picked up a Cross Breed Holsters Super Tuck IWB holster and its the bee's knee's. Looking at it the bare holster one may say "ick" compared to a Kramer or High Noon holster, but I take functionality over aethstetics anyday. I have tried a few different holsters and this one carries the best for me, its comfortable even when sitting and allows me to wear a t-shirt and not worry about "printing".
This particular holster is for a Springfield XDm 9mm. I ordered the regular horsehide super-tuck, but I ended up cutting it down to match the "combat cut" that one can get from the company. The cut came out great, I can get a really good grip with minimal effort. I was doubtful of the kydex clips at first, but I have done approx. 70 test draws so far and all that comes out is the pistol, not the holster. The kydex comes pre-formed to your specific pistol, but included directions allow you to safely and easily fine tune the molding with a hair dryer. I molded mine a little tighter after doing some jogging with the holster, and retention is exactly were I want it: secure yet smooth on the draw. The areas that I molded were around the ejection port and trigger gaurd. Super easy.
If I were to get another CBH for my 1911, I would not get the combat cut due to the presense of a hammer and larger grip.
The price is right too, worth a look if your in the market for an IWB. Lifetime warranty.
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/beltslide.htmlhttp://www.crossbreedholsters.com/beltslide.html
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01-20-2009, 13:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perdurabo
Perhaps The Reaper or another Kramer #3 user can answer this, but how (un)comfortable is this holster when sitting on your caboose all day?
My Tucker Gunleather "The Answer" holster has a nice flat soft leather piece that sits against your skin, keeping the signature of the gun from pressing into your side.
I might pick up a Kramer #3 though if they're comfy enough (I carry a full-sized XD-45)
Thanks in advance,
Jake
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I've worn my Kramer #3 all day with my Glock 32 and have found it to be very comfortable.
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01-20-2009, 14:02
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Guerrilla Chief
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Another Cross Breed Holster user
I have to add, that I have tried many IWB, and not being svelte anymore....
makes most of them uncomfortable. A Milt Sparks Summer Special had been the most comfortable until I tried the CrossBreed Super Tuck. The CrossBreed is the single most comfortable IWB I have ever used. I currently have 4, for four different handguns... (1911, Sig P220, HK USP Compact, and Walther PPK). You can wear this holster all day, and almost forget you have it on.
And with the LIFETIME warranty in addition to the 2-Week-Try-it-Free gaurantee!
How can you go wrong. What other maker will let you wear it for two weeks, and return it if you don't like it.
Just my $0.02...... YMMV
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02-01-2011, 10:48
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Kramer Handgun Leather in horsehide
Have any of you users of multiple Kramer products noticed if one finish is more susceptible to scuffs and other undesirable signs of wear than the other? They have black, mahogany, and tan - for an extra $20. I like the tan, but I'd hate to ruin it if I bust my ass on an icy path somewhere.
This will be for the MSP paddle holster, if that matters.
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02-01-2011, 10:54
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Originally Posted by WholeManin2010
Have any of you users of multiple Kramer products noticed if one finish is more susceptible to scuffs and other undesirable signs of wear than the other? They have black, mahogany, and tan - for an extra $20. I like the tan, but I'd hate to ruin it if I bust my ass on an icy path somewhere.
This will be for the MSP paddle holster, if that matters.
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The wear just gives it character. It isn't a pair of jump boots for inspection.
I have a black MSP that is over ten years old, and IMHO, it still looks great.
TR
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02-01-2011, 11:24
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What TR said..
If you do want pretty.. black leather can always be waxed and shined back to new, as can most colors.
Ruff out, suede, or natural not so easy,, you live with the patina..
Additionally, Most manufactures put a sealer coat on the hide. This can limit what you can do down the road.
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02-01-2011, 11:31
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Originally Posted by WholeManin2010
Have any of you users of multiple Kramer products noticed if one finish is more susceptible to scuffs and other undesirable signs of wear than the other? They have black, mahogany, and tan - for an extra $20. I like the tan, but I'd hate to ruin it if I bust my ass on an icy path somewhere.
This will be for the MSP paddle holster, if that matters.
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Calm down, its OK to scuff leather.....really.
Grasshopper, you need to let go of your "shiny patent leather days" 
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02-01-2011, 13:00
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Thanks, all. I figured that age and handling would mature it like a well-worn leather jacket. Glad to hear that a little rough handling won't diminish it's beauty. Wish I had the belt coming too, but it will have to wait a few months.
Hope I age as gracefully during the probable two month wait for the holster...
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02-01-2011, 13:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WholeManin2010
Have any of you users of multiple Kramer products noticed if one finish is more susceptible to scuffs and other undesirable signs of wear than the other? They have black, mahogany, and tan - for an extra $20. I like the tan, but I'd hate to ruin it if I bust my ass on an icy path somewhere.
This will be for the MSP paddle holster, if that matters.
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The only issue with my Mahogany MSP that I ever had, and Mr. Kramer helped me take care of it, was the color from the paddle bleeding through to my clothing in Fort Leonardwood summer heat.
My IWB #3 did not do this at all. Switched to black - no problems.
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02-01-2011, 13:57
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Originally Posted by Eagle5US
The only issue with my Mahogany MSP that I ever had, and Mr. Kramer helped me take care of it, was the color from the paddle bleeding through to my clothing in Fort Leonardwood summer heat.
My IWB #3 did not do this at all. Switched to black - no problems.
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Interesting. Glad I went with black after all. Mahogany and tan both look pretty sharp, but I figured for its intended purpose, black would be less conspicuous.
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