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12-23-2010, 11:24
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Just saw two soldiers at the Ft. Bliss PX dressed in drag. And so it starts.....
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IF you are serious about this, and you know they are soldiers....
then it is your responsibility to make the appropriate corrective action. //[i]edited to add...I see you are no longer "in" so I was incorrect in stating your responsibility - apologies...I'd STILL have gotten their unit contact info and called their CSM...retired or not. Just my personal choice...//
The repeal has yet to take effect.
The message from the Post CG that was sent out "en masse" on Monday clearly states that the Regs currently in place have not yet changed.
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Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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12-23-2010, 11:42
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Okay, situational here.
You are a commander and have two of your soldiers caught in drag cruising the PX.
Now that they cannot be put out for this, can you punish them in any way?
What if they are gay?
Or better yet, what if they are straight, but are mocking gays? All they have to do is say that they really are gay, and that you are discriminating against them, and you will really be in hot water. Plenty of legal beagles, the EEOC, and the ACLU will be lining up to defend them.
We are cursed to live in interesting times.
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12-23-2010, 11:52
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Okay, situational here.
You are a commander and have two of your soldiers caught in drag cruising the PX.
Now that they cannot be put out for this, can you punish them in any way?
What if they are gay?
Or better yet, what if they are straight, but are mocking gays? All they have to do is say that they really are gay, and that you are discriminating against them, and you will really be in hot water. Plenty of legal beagles, the EEOC, and the ACLU will be lining up to defend them.
We are cursed to live in interesting times.
TR
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An extension to that very plausible conundrum would be if I were still in the Military and one of the XXXXsuckers got in an EM bind and needed mouth-to-mouth resuscitation while in my immediate vicinity.
They better devise some kind of homo buddy system, because the Dustmeister can't be the only man who would refuse to commit fellatio by proxy.
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12-23-2010, 11:53
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Shouldn't they be in uniform? Wouldn't they simply be punishable for not being in proper uniform?
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Not if they are off duty...
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Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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12-23-2010, 12:14
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AIDS
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Would you feel the same if it was a lesbian who needed mouth to mouth?
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AIDS?
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12-23-2010, 12:21
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Would you feel the same if it was a lesbian who needed mouth to mouth?
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How does she look? 
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12-23-2010, 12:22
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AIDS?
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HIV/AIDS is not transmitted through saliva...
That being said, "abrasions in the mouth or throat" that cause bleeding in currently the only population that is seeing a rise in the diagnosis of HIV/AIDS (that being men who have sex with men) and the increased promiscuity that has been shown to be associated with that same population, does present an increase in risk for exposure to the virus that causes the disease over all other groups (heterosexual men and women, and lesbian or bisexual women)
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Primum non Nocere
"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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12-23-2010, 12:25
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Originally Posted by NORMAL550GIRL
Would you feel the same if it was a lesbian who needed mouth to mouth?
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Is she the short haired stocky one with 12 earrings, wearing size 42 jeans and a tie or is she the pretty size 4 with the long hair skirt and heels?
We are so predictable 
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"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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12-23-2010, 12:28
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Fear of contracting AIDS isn't why I wouldn't lock lips with a XXXXsucker. It would be because he, being a homo, probably has oral sex with other homo men.
Now, to give a straight answer re: the lesbian-I know what you're driving at, and I will admit that I wouldn't have the same reticence to help, because she probably hasn't done anything I haven't done lately.
Lesbians don't gross me out.
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12-23-2010, 13:02
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Originally Posted by Dusty
Fear of contracting AIDS isn't why I wouldn't lock lips with a XXXXsucker. It would be because he, being a homo, probably has oral sex with other homo men.
Now, to give a straight answer re: the lesbian-I know what you're driving at, and I will admit that I wouldn't have the same reticence to help, because she probably hasn't done anything I haven't done lately.
Lesbians don't gross me out.
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Hmmm. Not sure about posting this, but here goes:
As a single man after 24 years of marriage, I found myself in the position of kissing many (okay... several... oh, alright... a few) women who may possibly have had oral sex with another man at some point in their lives.
In fact, at my age, I was pretty sure I would NOT want to be in relationship with a woman of similar longevity who had NOT done such an act up to that point. (I am in educational activities all day long, and wish not to educate in my time off! Or more likely... find myself having to plead for such activity.*)
* Related joke:
Why do women have "Crow's Feet"?
From saying, (eyes all scrunched up creating Crow's Feet) "You want me to suck what?"
Why do men have "Crow's Feet"?
From saying, (eyes all scrunched up creating Crow's Feet) "Please, please, please...!!!"
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12-23-2010, 13:04
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Originally Posted by Dusty
An extension to that very plausible conundrum would be if I were still in the Military and one of the XXXXsuckers got in an EM bind and needed mouth-to-mouth resuscitation while in my immediate vicinity.
They better devise some kind of homo buddy system, because the Dustmeister can't be the only man who would refuse to commit fellatio by proxy.
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Kissing a straight woman may not be so different.
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12-23-2010, 13:08
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Kissing a straight woman may not be so different.
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Roger that, but the only straight woman I kiss is Mrs. Dusty, and the chances of her having "lipped" another dude are the same as Carrey's character in "Dumb and Dumber" getting a piece of the rich hottie: About one in a million.
Hey...I don't like them odds.
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12-23-2010, 13:12
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Would you feel the same if it was a lesbian who needed mouth to mouth?
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Maybe. . . but I'd watch 
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12-23-2010, 13:13
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As a single man after 24 years of marriage, I found myself in the position of kissing many (okay... several... oh, alright... a few) women
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LMAO!!!
Dude - you are so spot on...
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"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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12-23-2010, 13:22
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Well, according to the CDC, the only way that's going to happen is if there is also blood or open sores in both mouths....also according the CDC, woman to woman transmission of HIV is a rare occurrence.
Oh, and that was a real question.... I was interested in Dusty's answer ...not posing a hypothetical for argumentative purposes.
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I can just see it now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J77OSkVwku4
Team Sergeant with a clip board.
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