11-23-2010, 09:29
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Originally Posted by CSB
MEMO FOR TERRORISTS
Places to avoid:
1 - Anywhere in Tennessee.
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Please add Texas and Indiana to that list
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11-23-2010, 10:00
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I'm guessing their chances would still be better armed than they would be unarmed.
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Yes and no, they are some that might be more of a liability to those around them in that chaotic scenario. I'll compare it to the hunter that re-actively shoots at sound and movement without distinguishing what they are shooting at.
Secondly, well intended gun carrier might end up in the cross hairs of arriving LEO's.
Ironically, as I type this all the schools are locked down due to a robbery up the street. There are approximately 8-10 schools in the immediate area and at any one time we have 5-10 LEOs on patrol.
Ideally, I think it would be advantageous if there was a program for citizens to work in conjunction with State and Local authorities.....just in case we have more than a couple robbers to deal with.
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11-23-2010, 10:08
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Originally Posted by CSB
MEMO FOR TERRORISTS
Places to avoid:
1 - Anywhere in Tennessee.
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IIRC in some book, UBL asked John Walker Lindh how significant an impact blowing up the Hoover Dam would have on America, and Lindh replied where is the Hoover Dam?
Any place with CCW would seem more prepared.
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11-23-2010, 10:35
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I think if it came down to it people would start ignoring the gun laws, back in my old neighborhood where I grew up, alot of people I knew had guns whether it was legal for them or not. More people will realize that if we don't arm our populace, only the bad guys will have guns.
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11-23-2010, 10:47
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You give me a dozen trained, dedicated, and trustworthy men, 30 days, and a small budget and I will show you a plan to bring this country's economy to a screeching halt.
If they are willing to martyr themselves in the process, I can do several times more damage.
The underground and auxillary support structure is already established here in the Muslim community, or several other minority groups.
The bad guys understand this, and are biding their time, for now, and we have been lucky in stopping their plans (in most cases through their own ineptitude). So far, since the huge blow of 9/11, it has been amateur hour.
That doesn't mean they will stop trying, or not eventually succeed.
The magnitude of damage of another coordinated effort should not be underestimated.
We have to get serious about these threats. Thus far, we have been lucky.
TR
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11-23-2010, 11:49
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So very true, Sir
We talked about this type of scenerio during Sage..Just look at all the problems the DC snipers caused and that was just 2 guys.
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
You give me a dozen trained, dedicated, and trustworthy men, 30 days, and a small budget and I will show you a plan to bring this country's economy to a screeching halt.
If they are willing to martyr themselves in the process, I can do several times more damage.
The underground and auxillary support structure is already established here in the Muslim community, or several other minority groups.
The bad guys understand this, and are biding their time, for now, and we have been lucky in stopping their plans (in most cases through their own ineptitude). So far, since the huge blow of 9/11, it has been amateur hour.
That doesn't mean they will stop trying, or not eventually succeed.
The magnitude of damage of another coordinated effort should not be underestimated.
We have to get serious about these threats. Thus far, we have been lucky.
TR
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11-23-2010, 19:26
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
You give me a dozen trained, dedicated, and trustworthy men, 30 days, and a small budget and I will show you a plan to bring this country's economy to a screeching halt.
If they are willing to martyr themselves in the process, I can do several times more damage.
The underground and auxillary support structure is already established here in the Muslim community, or several other minority groups.
The bad guys understand this, and are biding their time, for now, and we have been lucky in stopping their plans (in most cases through their own ineptitude). So far, since the huge blow of 9/11, it has been amateur hour.
That doesn't mean they will stop trying, or not eventually succeed.
The magnitude of damage of another coordinated effort should not be underestimated.
We have to get serious about these threats. Thus far, we have been lucky.
TR
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What happens when they start using pickup trucks and SUVs as weapons in urban areas with large levels of pedestrian traffic?
Will ignition interrupts be required on all of our vehicles?
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Let the state/local gov'ts develop decentralized defensive measures to counter decentralized threats.
Let the federal government focus on offensive efforts in the terrorists' backyards.
The big guns should be pointed outward, not inward.
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11-23-2010, 19:49
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Interesting
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Originally Posted by CSB
Well, if they are going to pick a city, San Francisco is as good a place as any. Definitely won't be any armed resistance from the sheeple.
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Being from the San Francisco Bay Area I've talked to a lot of my friends about this issue. Most of them have achieved what I feel is a realist state of mind on the issue. 'No matter how good big brother gets, some will get through, and we will have to deal with it, make adjustments and move on.'
Whether they hit Memphis Tennessee and kill 100 or San Francisco California and kill 300, I believe we should continue refine our police/intelligence branches yet continue to have a high quality of life. IMO the time where only military members have to accept early death as possibility is over. American civilians should be mentally preparing themselves for attacks.
Last edited by trvlr; 11-23-2010 at 20:03.
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11-23-2010, 20:19
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Being from the San Francisco Bay Area I've talked to a lot of my friends about this issue. Most of them have achieved what I feel is a realist state of mind on the issue. 'No matter how good big brother gets, some will get through, and we will have to deal with it, make adjustments and move on.'
Whether they hit Memphis Tennessee and kill 100 or San Francisco California and kill 300, I believe we should continue refine our police/intelligence branches yet continue to have a high quality of life. IMO the time where only military members have to accept early death as possibility is over. American civilians should be mentally preparing themselves for attacks.
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True. There are many in America who agree and are doing that. They are keeping an eye on the news and world events and thinking critically of anything the government says. On the other hand, there are also many sheeple who yell that those preparing themselves are paranoid schizophrenics who need to be disarmed and corralled. They refuse to face facts and continue to live in their imagined utopia.
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11-23-2010, 20:21
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Could a strike team use Mexico as a launch point? Could they get weapons there too? Taliban control opium...drug cartels control Mexico...would the two ever work towards a common goal (money and power)?
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Interesting point.
Are we going to see a much larger conglomeration of evil forces intent on destroying western civilization?[/QUOTE]
Anyone without a criminal background can get Weapons right here in the USA. Why smuggle them in. Six guys with Rifles attacking three different places in three consecutive days. Would shut our Country down. No one would go to any public places for month.
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11-23-2010, 20:26
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True. There are many in America who agree and are doing that. They are keeping an eye on the news and world events and thinking critically of anything the government says. On the other hand, there are also many sheeple who yell that those preparing themselves are paranoid schizophrenics who need to be disarmed and corralled. They refuse to face facts and continue to live in their imagined utopia.
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11-23-2010, 20:58
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Interesting point.
Are we going to see a much larger conglomeration of evil forces intent on destroying western civilization?
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Anyone without a criminal background can get Weapons right here in the USA. Why smuggle them in. Six guys with Rifles attacking three different places in three consecutive days. Would shut our Country down. No one would go to any public places for month.
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It's boggled my mind for a while that it hasn't happened yet. It's why I stay out of malls during the holidays, and if I have to go into said malls I carry extra mags.
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11-23-2010, 21:09
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I don't think we need to delve too deeply into the TTPs here.
The bad guys will have plenty of ideas on their own.
TR
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11-24-2010, 01:50
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I am amazed that this hasn't already happened. Too easy.
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11-24-2010, 10:21
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Well, if they are going to pick a city, San Francisco is as good a place as any. Definitely won't be any armed resistance from the sheeple.
Second best for a defenseless populace: New York, Chicago. Or anywhere in New Jersey.
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I'll drink to that one.
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