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Old 11-19-2010, 22:35   #256
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Next time I'm out west, beers for both of you. Congrats on your hard work.
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Old 11-19-2010, 22:50   #257
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YOU ARE THE MAN! Congrats, TS.
As much as I hate reality shows, you guys ought to market a reality show busting posers. It would definitely be one that LOTS of folks would watch….way better than “Survivor”

If you do, I nominate Gavin Degraw’s “I don’t want to be” for the theme song
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFCW3PHBws
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Old 11-19-2010, 22:57   #258
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I wonder how many hits YouTube has gotten from this site. Like Apple has an "app for that" there seems to be a video for every new thread.
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Old 11-19-2010, 23:13   #259
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As much as I hate reality shows, you guys ought to market a reality show busting posers. It would definitely be one that LOTS of folks would watch….way better than “Survivor”

If you do, I nominate Gavin Degraw’s “I don’t want to be” for the theme song
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFCW3PHBws
Or Nickelback's, "I wanna be a rock star". We would have to change the lyrics to properly fit the life posers would have to live after they're outted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toNf2oPNo4k
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Old 11-19-2010, 23:32   #260
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Or Nickelback's, "I wanna be a rock star".
How bout this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSlqI1AVUk
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Old 11-19-2010, 23:34   #261
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you rock, that's too damn funny.
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Old 11-19-2010, 23:41   #262
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Laughing out loud while having scary mental images of a "chick" in ponytails with chin hair. Thanks T-Rock
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:17   #263
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This is video from a local news network on the Hillar story.

http://www.kcba.com/global/video/pop...News&h1=Former M.I.I.S. Instructor Accused Of Being A Fraud&flvUri=&partnerclipid=
Looks like Mr. Hubbs and his MIIS buddies did all the leg work and not TS. You would think they would of at least mentioned where they got the information to begin with.

Hillar is getting buried deeper than a Chilean miner with NO hope of rescue though.
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:59   #264
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I contacted Larry and he's going to change it
I also sent Larry an email at 4:30PM,,
still hasn't changed the verbiage...

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MIIS probes lecturer's credentials, Website raises questions about military background, By LARRY PARSONS, Herald Staff Writer, Posted: 11/19/2010 01:29:59 AM PST
Updated: 11/19/2010 08:49:59 AM PST

quote"Questions about the accuracy of Hillar's military record were raised on a Web chat site called Professional Soldiers, which describes itself as being owned and operated by "quiet professionals and ... dedicated to the Special Services soldier." "
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I would like to point out a small error in your article..

Special Services handles the pop-corn machines at the Army base movie theaters....

Special Forces is a branch in the US Army.

A short speech by JFK at the USMA graduation, June 6th, 1962.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FVrpiG7haE

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Special Forces (United States Army)

The United States Army Special Forces, also known as the Green Berets because of their distinctive service headgear, are a special operations force of the United States Army tasked with six primary missions: unconventional warfare, foreign internal defense, special reconnaissance, direct action, hostage rescue, and counter-terrorism. The first two emphasize language, cultural, and training skills in working with foreign troops. Other duties include combat search and rescue (CSAR), security assistance, peacekeeping, humanitarian assistance, humanitarian demining, counter-proliferation, psychological operations, manhunts, and counter-drug operations; other components of the United States Special Operations Command or other U.S. government activities may also specialize in these secondary areas.[2] Many of their operational techniques are classified, but some nonfiction works[3] and doctrinal manuals are available.[4][5][6] The original and most important mission of the Special Forces had been "unconventional warfare", while other capabilities, such as direct action, were gradually added. Their official motto is De oppresso liber (Latin: To Liberate the Oppressed), a reference to one of their primary missions, training and advising foreign indigenous forces.[7]

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The rest of your article was good.

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Old 11-20-2010, 10:36   #265
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Looks like Mr. Hubbs and his MIIS buddies did all the leg work and not TS. You would think they would of at least mentioned where they got the information to begin with.

Hillar is getting buried deeper than a Chilean miner with NO hope of rescue though.
Mr. Hubbs worked with me on this story.
He's taking the MIIS part and running with it, I'm taking the "National" part and running with that.

Larry Parsons doesn't strike me as one that likes to do his research, or read very well for that matter.....

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The Monterey County Herald
Posted: 11/20/2010 01:30:27 AM PST
Updated: 11/20/2010 01:30:28 AM PST


The website Professional Soldiers describes itself as being dedicated to "the Special Forces Soldier." An inaccurate description of the site was carried in a page A1 story Friday about a lecturer at the Monterey Institute of International Studies.

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In the interest of accuracy and fairness, it is The Herald's policy to correct factual errors and clarify misleading statements. To request/suggest a correction or clarification, please e-mail

corrections@montereyherald.com

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http://www.montereyherald.com/corrections/ci_16666533


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Old 11-20-2010, 10:43   #266
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Great Job Guys I love this thread lol
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:01   #267
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:07   #268
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Good job, keep in the fight.

There's a few more articles that are about to surface.

In the last few days I've spoken to quite a few reporters, none have been able to contact william g hillar.

I'd give a dollar to know "where" bill hillar is hiding....

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Old 11-20-2010, 11:16   #269
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Monterey Instructor Accused of Fraud, Claims to be Action Movie Inspiration
Posted: Nov 19, 2010 7:20 PM MST
Updated: Nov 19, 2010 8:31 PM MST
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MONTEREY, Calif.- Bill Hillar claimed to serve across the globe, as a green beret. He taught at major institutions, across the country. Friday, a local student is calling him a fraud saying Hillar has tricked people for years.

Bill Hillar lectured at the Monterey Institute of International Studies. Students say, he even claims the movie TAKEN is loosely based on his life.
Students here at MIIS were excited to be taking a sex trafficking course from a renowned expert, a special forces army colonel, but they said all they got were a bunch of lies, and they have the proof to back it up.

"I heard nothing but good things about him, everybody raved about his courses, he was in special forces, teaches a course on tactical counter terrorism and he tells the most amazing stories," said Brian Hubbs.

But that's just it, now Hubbs is coming forward for the first time saying his one time instructor Bill Hillar was telling stories that never happened. For instance, Hubbs says Hillar claimed to be inspiration for the film TAKEN where a former government operative's daughter is kidnapped and forced into sex trafficking.

Hubbs says for students in one class, "The dominant story he mentioned that she was murdered in Bornio, but in the human trafficking class that I took he said she was murdered in Mexico City...He seemed very passionate there were times when he was tearing up in class," said Hubbs.

When the students researched the movie's writer they say they learned TAKEN was based on a Paris police officer. Bill Hillar wasn't mentioned.

The movie inconsistency wasn't the only thing that caused Hubbs and a handful of students to start researching Hillar's claims.

Hubbs, a former Marine vet, said what bothered him the most were the stories about Hillar being high atop the army's chain of command.

"He specifically said I'm retired army colonel, special forces, Delta Force took part in all these operations," saiod Hubbs.

Hubbs tracked down documentation that shows Hillar was in the Coast Guard reserves, but there is no record of him in the army or any type of special forces.

"it just became more clear that things weren't adding up, things weren't right, but the only problem is he only teaches one class in the spring one in the fall, so he's not around."

Hubbs and the other students took their concerns to the school's administration.

"We take it very seriously. We want to be diligent and thorough in the research we are doing to understand the facts," said Jason Warburg, the Communications Director at MIIS.

The next question you may be asking: What is the protocol for a background check? The school says Hillar was a contracted instructor.

"It's a different process. A more informal process," said Warburg.

So what is Hillar saying about all this? That's the problem. Hubbs and the school both say they've tried to contact him. So far, the only thing they can track down is the P.O. Box office he has in Carmel, a shutdown website, and voicemail from the man who they say was once their trusted instructor.

Central Coast News has also reached out to Hillar, but has yet to hear from him. Check back on www.kionrightnow.com for updates.

Submitted by Central Coast News reporter Brooke Holmquist.

http://www.kcba.com/Global/story.asp?S=13540374
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Human Trafficking Hero…or FRAUD?
Nov 20 2010

By Anthony M. Davis

About a week ago I received an email from a woman I know in the Pacific Northwest. Last year I interviewed her for my upcoming book on Human Trafficking. I trust her intuition since she knows about trafficking…she was a trafficking victim for five years. In her email she asked me what I thought of a man named Bill Hillar. According to the email, some believe he is a fraud. I explained that I hadn’t heard of him but would certainly look into it. It didn’t take too long to find this man has a questionable history. Fortunately, my work was made easier by some who had already taken up the mission to discover who he really is.

Bill Hillar claims he is retired U.S. Army Special Forces Colonel. He also claims the movie, “Taken” is based upon his own life story when his daughter was kidnapped, forced into trafficking and then murdered. Using this story he established himself as a expert and began a teaching/public speaking business. There’s good money in public speaking…it’s just important if the words are true.

Paperwork obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) shows there is “No Record” of his affiliation with the Army. (Click this link to see the Army letter). The next question is whether he has any military service. Once again, using information through FOIA records it shows he served as a U.S. Coast Guard Reservist from 1962 to 1970. (see link here.) Given that, the question continues. Did Bill Hillar actually claim these things or did someone say that he presented himself as a US Army Colonel?

Bill Hillar maintained a website (www.billhillartraining.com). Yet, around the time that people began questioning his status as either a hero or a liar, his website was taken down. Yet, once on the Internet…always on the Internet. This link is an archive of his biography from his website. Looking further, it appears that he had Elon University scammed into believing his story. On November 12th, he was honored by the university as a “Hometown Hero” by being a person that “makes a difference.” Here is a link to the Elon University story. It’s clear that Bill Hillar presented himself as someone other than who he actually is.

Over the years, Hillar developed a good business over the years teaching and speaking. He lives in Carmel, California…not a cheap living. Here is a list of public corporations, universities, agencies and businesses that Bill Hillar claims to have as clients. These are companies with funds able to pay well for speaking and training events. (See link here.) Additionally, he lists a variety of law enforcement clients. It’s usually a bad idea to defraud anyone. Yet, when you stand before law enforcement professionals who are paid with limited public funding and defraud them…that’s really dumb. Given that these training sessions were paid for with public funds, all of us become victims as our taxes subsidized his income. (Here’s the link to law enforcement and other high risk clients.)

So…what about the murdered daughter? I know that Hillar established an essay award in the name of his dead daughter, Sale Hillar. More information about the award, including a chance to read two well-written essays by contestants are are available HERE. If Hillar’s daughter was a trafficking victim, that’s a horrible thing. Yet, while I’ve not verified it yet, it appears that his daughter may be alive and well in North Carolina.

His students at the Monterey Institute of International Studies feel cheated and rightfully so. We live in a world where our young adults should have legitimate mentors, willing to guide them to a life of success – not show them that those who stood before them telling (and showing emotion) during his stories are liars. Yesterday the news story broke in California. (Click HERE for the story and news video.)

It’s too early to say how this will end. Yet, I would not be surprised to see it snowball into a complete web of lies. Last year I had the privilege to help expose a “Medal of Honor” fraud. In that case the individual continued changing his story and resume as he was challenged. His educational bonafides changed with the weather and it was eventually turned over to authorities. My guess is this case will operate along a similar path of deceit.

Because he has not been charged or convicted, we can’t legally call the man a fraud. Yet, the facts are clear as we know them. I contacted him for an interview. I’ve had no reply. If charged, this man could obviously face fraud charges. Additionally, if proven that funds obtained through fraudulent activities purchased property of any tangible value that could open the doors to money laundering or conspiracy if tied with any accomplice and ultimately asset forfeiture and incarceration.


If the allegations are proven true, this man will have earned a living on the backs of those millions of victims each year that suffer as slaves in the sex and labor trades. Shameful.

http://notrafficking.com/2010/11/hum...hero-or-fraud/
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