Detachment B-52 (Project Delta) Reconnaissance Tips of the Trade

[glebo]

I checked with Tim V, the 18C tng developer. He's not sure of what your actually refering to. Any other info on that handout???

[Papa Zero Three]

Originally Posted by glebo

I checked with Tim V, the 18C tng developer. He's not sure of what your actually refering to. Any other info on that handout???

I'm pretty sure it is what has become Papi's little green book. There used to actually be (according to Mr. Tabata) a few blueprint/manual/ documents on base camps and the structures to include detailed blue prints with the BOMs and everything that they used in Vietnam. It was a hodgepodge of information that they had acquired the hard way, through experience, and it was in a manual called Base camps or something to that effect. Not entirely positive it was an actual Army manual or something someone had made by compiling all the BOMs from the base camps in Vietnam. I'd have to ask Mr. Tabata about it to be certain. At any rate, it is this type of institutional knowledge and materials that we seem to lose as it either goes with the people who have it in their heads or the materials/books are forgotten about.....until needed.

[Richard]

Tell Ernie to beat his boots for not keeping all his old files on A Camp development - I know he's kept about everything else. FWIW - he and Dick Warren were the guys who built Kham Duc and two of the SF NCOs I truly admired - SGM Warren was my first B TM SGM and SGM Tabata was one of my last B TM SGMs - two of the BEST.

Attached photos are the cover and main sections (Phase 1 - Planning; Phase 2- Construction; Phase 3 - Opening) of the planning handbook circa '66-'67 in my files. I'll see about scanning the entire thing when I get some more time if anyone is interested.

Richard

[Papa Zero Three]

Originally Posted by Richard

Tell Ernie to beat his boots for not keeping all his old files on A Camp development - I know he's kept about everything else. FWIW - he and Dick Warren were the guys who built Kham Duc and two of the SF NCOs I truly admired - SGM Warren was my first B TM SGM and SGM Tabata was one of my last B TM SGMs - two of the BEST.

Attached photos are the cover and main sections (Phase 1 - Planning; Phase 2- Construction; Phase 3 - Opening) of the planning handbook circa '66-'67 in my files. I'll see about scanning the entire thing when I get some more time if anyone is interested.

Richard

I'm going to guess that's the book people were looking for a while back, I know I was. Based on the pictures, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that was never an official Army manual.

I'd appreciate a scan of it if you have the time.

[exsquid]

I am refering to a little mint green covered Base Camp manual written by Papi I believe sometime in the 70s. Once I get back in country I can take a look at mine for the exact title & publication date. It includes a lot of hand done drawing. My favorite being one of a VC crawling under the wire while rounds go over top the wire with a in the corner. The next one is a VC climbing over the wire & getting shot w/ a in the corner.

x/S

[bost1751]

Thanks Richard. I still know it as "Camp". I don't ever recall SF using the term base camp. I still recall the star formation A camp.

[bost1751]

should have read "A Camp"