Muslim-Americans launch PR initiatives, promote Sept. 11 as day of national service

[Richard]

Can you name one country with a Muslim Majority where all citizens, of all religions enjoy the same protection as Muslims under their laws?

Albania is one - there are many more in Africa, Asia, and Europe - and many who lie somewhere in between total equality and banishment.

These clowns have parents born in muslim countries.

Or maybe grandparents or great-grandparents or great-great-grandparents or... I have Lebanese friends who are Muslim and whose ancestors settled here in Texas prior to statehood (prior to Dec 1845) and they are as vocifeously anti-Sharia or any other religious law being the laws of the land as anybody I know.

Why do they move here?

For as many reasons as anybody moves here. My ancestors were Scots and moved here in 1650 (Middle Plantaion, Maryland) to escape the consequences they encountered from the Wars of the Three Kingdoms.

As for Islam - despite its scriptural tenets, it's as diverse in how it is interpreted and practiced now as it always has been, it's as complicated an issue - internally and externally - now as it always has been, it's in as volatile a state of flux now as it always has been, and nobody can say when or how it'll all end - as it always has been.

However, IMO and if History is a useful guide, it will either adapt to a more moderately acceptable form of reasoned belief(s) or it will end up on the trash heap of discarded theologies as has happened to so many others.

However - YMMV - and so it goes...

Richard

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Richard

Albania is one - there are many more in Africa, Asia, and Europe - and many who lie somewhere in between total equality and banishment.....................

Richard;

I'll give you Albania - at 70% Muslim. But the interesting thing about Albania is it's a majority Sunni and Bektashi Muslim population.

The Bektashi sect is having it's own problems inside Turkey as they lean more towards supporting the secular nature of Turkey.

It's not just other religions getting the squeeze from Islam - it's the Muslims who ain't Muslim enough getting the squeeze also.

"........However, IMO and if History is a useful guide, it will either adapt to a more moderately acceptable form of reasoned belief(s) or it will end up on the trash heap of discarded theologies as has happened to so many others........."

Richard - there is the third option - everyone alive ends up Muslim.

[Saoirse]

Originally Posted by Pete

Richard;

I'll give you Albania - at 70% Muslim. But the interesting thing about Albania is it's a majority Sunni and Bektashi Muslim population.

The Bektashi sect is having it's own problems inside Turkey as they lean more towards supporting the secular nature of Turkey.

It's not just other religions getting the squeeze from Islam - it's the Muslims who ain't Muslim enough getting the squeeze also.

"........However, IMO and if History is a useful guide, it will either adapt to a more moderately acceptable form of reasoned belief(s) or it will end up on the trash heap of discarded theologies as has happened to so many others........."

Richard - there is the third option - everyone alive ends up Muslim.

I am seriously voting for the trash heap (which is where that evilness belongs), but that is just me personally.
This initiative (of all days, why Sept 11?), the mosque, the constant complaining we hear from the left and the muslims about how we are all a bunch of islamophobes and racists, is not helping their cause IMO. Nor is any of it impressive in regard to their ability to assert their rights. I see it as the Grand March to Domination, which is at the top of their agenda. Want me and others to believe otherwise, then lets start seeing all those so called moderates come out of hiding and speak up!!!! A few out of the estimated 1.5 billion is nothing! It is not even a drop in the bucket.

I am straining an ear here, I don't hear a peep!

[alright4u]

Originally Posted by Richard

Albania is one - there are many more in Africa, Asia, and Europe - and many who lie somewhere in between total equality and banishment.



Or maybe grandparents or great-grandparents or great-great-grandparents or... I have Lebanese friends who are Muslim and whose ancestors settled here in Texas prior to statehood (prior to Dec 1845) and they are as vocifeously anti-Sharia or any other religious law being the laws of the land as anybody I know.



For as many reasons as anybody moves here. My ancestors were Scots and moved here in 1650 (Middle Plantaion, Maryland) to escape the consequences they encountered from the Wars of the Three Kingdoms.

As for Islam - despite its scriptural tenets, it's as diverse in how it is interpreted and practiced now as it always has been, it's as complicated an issue - internally and externally - now as it always has been, it's in as volatile a state of flux now as it always has been, and nobody can say when or how it'll all end - as it always has been.

However, IMO and if History is a useful guide, it will either adapt to a more moderately acceptable form of reasoned belief(s) or it will end up on the trash heap of discarded theologies as has happened to so many others.

However - YMMV - and so it goes...

Richard

No Muslim believes in God.

[T-Rock]

This initiative (of all days, why Sept 11?)

Well..., they've hijacked the term "Palestinian" as well as the Kingdom of Judea, why not 9/11 ?

Arafat was... a disciple of Otto Skorzeny...

FWIW, Obama gave them the idea of a National day of Service...

This effort to reshape the American psyche has nothing to do with healing the nation and everything to do with easing the nation along in the ongoing radical transformation of America that President Obama promised during last year's election campaign. The president signed into law a measure in April that designated Sept. 11 as a National Day of Service, but it's not likely many lawmakers thought this meant that day was going to be turned into a celebration of ethanol, carbon emission controls, and radical community organizing.

http://spectator.org/archives/2009/0...-desecrate-911


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Albania is one..

I have always wondered what this Albanian writing says
AlbanianBosnianLanguage.jpg

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by T-Rock

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I have always wondered what this Albanian writing says
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The inscription doesn't appear to be written using Albania characters. Unless it is some flowery variant.

[Richard]

I have always wondered what this Albanian writing says

Arabic - at Srebrenica-Potocari Memorial and Cemetery, Bosnia, a monument to the victims of the Serbian genocidal policies against the Bosnian muslim population in 1995. The picture shows former President Clinton attending the formal opening of the memorial on 20 Sep 2003.

http://www.ic-mp.org/press-releases/...-and-cemetery/

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35445.htm

Richard

[T-Rock]

Arabic

Why would the Albanians/Bosnians erect a monument in Arabic rather than Albanian/Bosnian…

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I’m curious what it says, anyone know?

[Richard]

Originally Posted by T-Rock

Why would the Albanians erect a monument in Arabic rather than Albanian…

Why are there so many grave markers and monuments throughout America which are inscribed in languages other than English?

However - FWIW - Bosnia is not Albania (although both countries have sizeable Muslim populations) and the cemetery/monument for the atrocities committed against the Bosnian Muslims in the picture you posted is in Bosnia, not Albania.

Must be a secret plot.

And so it goes...

Richard

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by T-Rock

Why would the Albanians/Bosnians erect a monument in Arabic rather than Albanian/Bosnian…

You might find more answers to your own questions if you took something other than a teleological approach to European history.

My $0.02.