Train-up for Nov.21 SFRE.

[abc_123]

Originally Posted by NoRoadtrippin

Did you really not notice the thread on the exact same topic in the exact same section you posted this under?

Concur with the previous post.

Did you really not notice that we have QPs and/or moderators that do a good job policing this web site all by themselves?

[3mikesout]

Originally Posted by gorunpaul

Is there anyone in the Sacramento area currently training for the 21 NOV SFRE? If so, I'm looking for some training partners.

We're about 90 days out. Are you still looking to participate in the SFRE? I plan on rucking several weekends in South Lake Tahoe if your interested. I have a cabin on the South Shore...

I'm in the bay area and training 5 on 2 off. Crossfit Monday - Friday AM and test specific events in the PM.

[3mikesout]

SFRE APFT:

I know I'm going to get smoked for asking this but I'm going to anyway... I've searched this site and others and can't seem to nail down the correct Run time for the SFRE. Some sites say you need to have a minimum score of 210 (17-21 age group) which would mean 70% on each event and others say 240 which would mean 80% (17-21) on each event. (This site actually implied the standard changed to 80% in your age bracket). I found the below information on this site from a 1 year old post and would ask if anyone on the site who administers the test can give me a clear answer on the standards for this November:

[I]The first event is the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT).
You must score 80 points in each category for your age group.

[Last hard class]

You are worried about the minimum pt score and you want to go SF?

Outstanding!

Run Forrest run.

LHC

[Green Light]

Put in the hard work up front, get in tremendous shape, get 300, and use your body as a vehicle to have fewer problems in SFAS. Check out the Blitz thread and use it. I do and it works.

[3mikesout]

LOL. Yes, just comming off a minor injury and started running distance again, not time. My distance runs I keep between 8:30 and 9:00 right now.

[3mikesout]

Originally Posted by Green Light

Put in the hard work up front, get in tremendous shape, get 300, and use your body as a vehicle to have fewer problems in SFAS. Check out the Blitz thread and use it. I do and it works.

Thanks... Will do...

I'm maxing the upper body events because I was able to keep training while my ankle healed.

[koz]

I wouldn't trust "sites." There is a ton of bad information out on the net. Even some recruiters don't have the right info (or they don't give you the right info so you'll sign that 88M contract...)
http://www.bragg.army.mil/sorb/SF_criteria.htm

Must score a minimum of 240 points on the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT), with no less than 60 points on any event, using the standards for age group 17-21.

They have lowered the points in one event, but IIRC 240 has always been the min score.

I wouldn't look at the minimum especially if you're going thru the Guard. I know some units won't send guys to SFAS unless they're at 280-300. If you're just making the minimum, it's far more likely that you probably won't make it. No reason to waste the money on sending you.

Good luck.

[3mikesout]

Originally Posted by koz

I wouldn't trust "sites." There is a ton of bad information out on the net. Even some recruiters don't have the right info (or they don't give you the right info so you'll sign that 88M contract...)
http://www.bragg.army.mil/sorb/SF_criteria.htm

Must score a minimum of 240 points on the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT), with no less than 60 points on any event, using the standards for age group 17-21.

They have lowered the points in one event, but IIRC 240 has always been the min score.

I wouldn't look at the minimum especially if you're going thru the Guard. I know some units won't send guys to SFAS unless they're at 280-300. If you're just making the minimum, it's far more likely that you probably won't make it. No reason to waste the money on sending you.

Good luck.

Excellent... Thanks for the url... And yes, I was told by the Guard recruiter we will be evaluated at the end of the day and only candidates they feel are qualified will be transfered into the unit.

[Aceshigh]

This is directly from my instructional packet (email) for the Nov 13 SFRE


"The first event is the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT).
You must score 80 points in each category for your age group.

The second event is a 50 meter swim test in uniform and boots.
Any stroke is authorized, there is no time limit, you must complete 50 meters
without touching the side or bottom of the pool.

The third event is a ruck march, (in a dry uniform and boots) with a 55lb
pack. Dry weight, before you add your water.

If you do not have a ruck, MOLLE, ALICE Pack or other at all, one can be
provided. (You'll be better off using the one you have been training with).
The course will be marked, the distance will not be given. You must maintain
a sub-15 minute/mile pace to meet the standard.
There will be several points with water available. A CamelBak or similar
hydration system to carry your water is highly encouraged.

If you are successful with all three events, we will start the process to
enlist/transfer you into the company to attend SFAS/SFQC."


I was also lead to believe by the recruiter I talked to over the phone that if one was successful in all three events then the unit would send you to SFAS, making it a pass/fail event rather than a competition.

That was my understanding of it. I may very well be wrong which is why I intend to max out everything I possibly can.

hope this helps

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by Aceshigh

That was my understanding of it. I may very well be wrong which is why I intend to max out everything I possibly can.

The course will be marked, the distance will not be given. You must maintain a sub-15 minute/mile pace to meet the standard.

Make sure you try to do a couple of practice APFT & Swim & Ruck, all in one day before you hit the test.

Max'ing the APFT and failing the swim or ruck is not what you want to do.

As you stated this is a pass/fail test. Have a plan before you get there.

[The Reaper]

I agree, those inquiring as to the minimum score are not the ones we are looking for.

If you cannot run two miles in 14:00 or less, you are likely going to have fitness issues.

You need to be able to do six miles or more at a significantly faster pace than you have cited.

You better come strong or stay home. You have the information you need to succeed, what you do with it is up to you.

TR

[Blitzzz (RIP)]

I could never have told you what the minimum was for a PT Test. You should't either. Time and injury recovery included. If you don't achieve the Max the minimum will be assured.
Blitzzz

[abc_123]

Originally Posted by koz

I wouldn't look at the minimum especially if you're going thru the Guard. I know some units won't send guys to SFAS unless they're at 280-300. If you're just making the minimum, it's far more likely that you probably won't make it. No reason to waste the money on sending you.

Good luck.

There shouldn't be any units out there requiring a 300 or a 290 on the APFT in order to save money. I'd be interested to know which ones are.

There is money to send candidates to SFAS/SFQC etc.

Although NG selection rates are very favorable when compared with our AC brethren, I personaly would love to see them lower than they are now as a result of more people going and more people failing... but with the net result being more selectees at the end of the TY.

Edit to add: I definately am in violent agreement with Koz and others that if you're doing the minimum you will probably have a very tough go at it (I can't imagine going to SFAS only being able to do the minimum, personally). IF you are the type of person who only STRIVES to do the minimum... well then as TR said... you're not the type of person we're looking forl

[3mikesout]

Originally Posted by abc_123

There shouldn't be any units out there requiring a 300 or a 290 on the APFT in order to save money. I'd be interested to know which ones are.

There is money to send candidates to SFAS/SFQC etc.

Although NG selection rates are very favorable when compared with our AC brethren, I personaly would love to see them lower than they are now as a result of more people going and more people failing... but with the net result being more selectees at the end of the TY.

Edit to add: I definately am in violent agreement with Koz and others that if you're doing the minimum you will probably have a very tough go at it (I can't imagine going to SFAS only being able to do the minimum, personally). IF you are the type of person who only STRIVES to do the minimum... well then as TR said... you're not the type of person we're looking forl

Thanks for all the help here. I was asking all of these questions to be better informed and it was entirely mis-interpited. As I went through all my research some points didn't add up so I came here for the correct information... I'm 90 days out from SFRE and when I come out of that on top, probebly another 2 months to SFAS (This is 3rd person information). Before my injury (99% fine now) I didn't ruck much, but I was heavy biking, running, and static weightlifting. With the information I recieved here, I switched to Crossfit for my gym workouts and I added rucking to my PM workouts.

Net-Net: Yes, I'm not ready for SFAS today, but will be as ready as possible for the day I hope it comes! I will do some timed events in 3 weeks and post to the board. Then I would happy to hear more feedback from all of you who have been there...