Obama Assails Arizona Immigration Law

[kgoerz]

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Is this new rule saying Police can stop anyone they want without PC? They just have to think the person they are detaining is illegal? Then ask them for ID. Then run their names thru the data base?

[dfirsty]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Is this new rule saying Police can stop anyone they want without PC? They just have to think the person they are detaining is illegal? Then ask them for ID. Then run their names thru the data base?

Sir, like Defender958 said the law makes it so that when we have a lawful reason to contact someone we can ask immigration status and take action if appropriate. Unlike what the media is saying we are not able to stop based on someone being hispanic.

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Does the law allow or force officers to enforce existing laws?IMO, this provision is problematic because it allows any Tom, Dick, or Henrietta to second-guess the professional judgment of LEO agencies as well as the political decisions of specific communities. As a hypothetical example, what happens if a defendant in a criminal trial points out that LEOs did not check on the residency status of its informants and key witnesses?

From what I've been told so far that section is in there to make sure departments cannot make policies that prohibit officers from being allowed to enforce this law. Further into the bill it indemnifies individual officers from lawsuits and puts it on the department.

Derek

[Richard]

And honestly, the things we expect from immigrants seem reasonable to me. Learn the language. Learn the history. Learn the culture. Assimilate into our society and become a contributing member to it. That's not a lot to ask. You don't wish to do these things? Then get the fuck out.

When my great grandfather brought his family over from Sicily in 1921, they wanted to know who was meeting him here, did he have work waiting for him, was he sick or not, and did he have $20 in his pocket.

Jesus, I'm so god damned tired of this shit.

Probably the same thoughts the inhabitants had when my ancestors came from Scotland and entered through Middle Plantation, Province of Maryland, in 1650.

Richard's $.02