04-20-2010, 10:31
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This isn't about salt, or food, it's about allowing the US Government to dictate what you will do as a "free" person.
This will not stop at salt.
This is a path to socialism, the government making decisions for you, because you're too stupid to limit your own food intake.
This needs to stop here and now.
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04-20-2010, 10:39
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At first i thought..."well, the cost of healthcare [private] will go down if people are living healthier, whether mandated by gov't or not", then I was hit in the head with a reality sledgehammer: They will find something else to keep the costs up.
I am not for socialized healthcare. But at the same time, i do believe that the medical profession and pharmaceutical companies are becoming more and more crooked. I simply don't trust them anymore than i trust a lawyer, JAG, most car salesmen, and politicians.
I will preface it this way....luckily myself and family have been healthy, nothing dramatic. I also know that I don't know it all. Having said that, when i go to the doctor, i don't need a look-over. All i need is his/her signature so i can go to the pharmacy for whatever i have self-diagnosed ourselves with. Blood work on the other hand, is a different story.
(I'm not for government regulating what we consume either)
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04-20-2010, 11:43
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04-20-2010, 11:54
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save the U.S. government $32 billion in healthcare costs".
pretty much sums it up in one line.
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04-20-2010, 13:05
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Originally Posted by Sierra Bravo
save the U.S. government $32 billion in healthcare costs".
pretty much sums it up in one line.
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I have to wonder that if they hadn't taken over health care, would the savings really matter?
I say this while recognizing that if it wasn't health care it would certainly be something else
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04-20-2010, 11:57
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Originally Posted by stickey
...luckily myself and family have been healthy, nothing dramatic. I also know that I don't know it all.
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Your are right. lucky
Instead, you posted.
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Having said that, when i go to the doctor, i don't need a look-over. All i need is his/her signature so i can go to the pharmacy for whatever i have self-diagnosed ourselves with. Blood work on the other hand, is a different story.
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You obviously forgot what you typed in the prior sentence. Let me highlight it for you in case you've gotten distracted again and lost your train of thought.
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Originally Posted by by you
I also know that I don't know it all.
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Sound familiar? I could care less that you don't trust your docs or that you think they are crooked/overpaid. After all, I am not a MD. LOL
Please save the "I know best crap" unless you have the education/experience under your belt to justify the attitude.  You currrent confidence is based on paper thin reasoning and good luck with your past diagnosis. Things aren't always so simple in life.
Ask the parent of a child with leukemia that thought their child had bruises because she was iron deficient. All they wanted was iron supplements. How about the father who has a sore throat during allergy season that just wants meds? Then he finds out that those swollen lymph nodes ( which he didn't even notice) are due to pharyngeal cancer? These are extreme examples, but are reality to those crooked docs that you need to sign your RX's.  .
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04-20-2010, 12:07
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04-20-2010, 13:11
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Step on the scale.....
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Originally Posted by armymom1228
From the USDA website. regulations and policy
TS? look over these programs and thier regs. Tell me is those regs socialism? Pretty much all of them have been in place for many yrs.
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How much do we all weigh?
Step on the scale, please.
Where do you draw the line on the government helping you be healthy?
Hmmmmm, the IRS agent comes by. Has the family step on the scale and you are given added taxes based on how much you are overweight.
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04-20-2010, 13:12
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Welcome to the United Nanny State of America.
TR
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04-20-2010, 15:22
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How much do we all weigh?
Step on the scale, please.
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Point taken.
One of my pet peeves is the amount of sodium in childrens cereal.
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04-20-2010, 17:42
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Originally Posted by armymom1228
Point taken.
One of my pet peeves is the amount of sodium in childrens cereal.
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Not to mention the sugar.
Then again, I don't want the government telling me what I should and shouldn't have. Period. I know what I need to do to be as healthy as possible, I'm sick of the encroachment of this administration. Now that that pig of a health care bill has passed, they won't stop until they control everything.
I'm sick to death of people who expect the government to fix everything, to include the content of the foods they consume.
Yeah, personal accountability anyone?
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04-20-2010, 20:40
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Originally Posted by armymom1228
TS, the USDA has for many years, regulated what goes in the food we eat.
I don't have much of a problem with that.
Next time you go to the store, pick up things at random and try to understand _everything_ that is in what you have in your hand. What about that can of peas that has both salt and sugar added? One place they sure as hel can dictate is in kids cerials.. try one serving that has 260 grams of sodium. I won't even go into which ethnic group has a high percentage of hypertension and also has a high percantage of that group that feeds thier kids cereal. Suffice to say, that unless regulated and forced to cereal makers won't remove the sodium from cereal...or...soda.
Do you call regulating that all milk for commerical sale being pastuerized socialism because the government requires it? What about the dictum to stop transfat in cooking oil? is that socialism.. its all the same thing.
I agree completely that people need to learn to eat 'smart'. But in reality that dog don't hunt for a large portion of the population.
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Originally Posted by armymom1228
From the USDA website. regulations and policy
TS? look over these programs and thier regs. Tell me is those regs socialism? Pretty much all of them have been in place for many yrs.
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armymom1228, The next time you wish to correct me or go head to head with me think again. The FDA does not dictate what we eat or how much. The FDA regulates food standards, set the standards for inspecting food, set standards for labels for processed foods, and sets standards for processing facilities and post gidelines and what we should eat. The only items they dictate is non-food items such as dyes.
No where does the FDA dictate what food items we consume, no where. Nothing in your FDA links dictate what we eat.
You do not need to answer me and don't PM me. Get your head out of your ass and your ducks in order before you decide to correct me again.
You are one of the sheeple.
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04-20-2010, 15:41
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
This isn't about salt, or food, it's about allowing the US Government to dictate what you will do as a "free" person.
This will not stop at salt.
This is a path to socialism, the government making decisions for you, because you're too stupid to limit your own food intake.
This needs to stop here and now.
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Very well said, TS Sir!!!!!!!!!
Can just see the headline now:
"Near Bloodbath at local Restaurant Averted by Chefs!"..."
"Local residents were shocked last night when a group of government regulators busted into the kichen at Restaurant SF, demanding the chefs hand over their salt, or else! Responding quickly and quietly, the chefs immediately implemented their plan of action, and within thirty seconds, had the regulators disarmed, bound, gagged, and sitting on the loading dock for transport! Dinner service resumed, and no injuries or fatalities were reported."
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04-20-2010, 17:16
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Boy that's a load off my mind.
Now if they'll only tell me when to sh*t.
Hmmm......Will I need a permit to buy a can of Morton's salt??
Or will it just not be legal?
Maybe I could pay a transfer tax under the new NFA (National Food Act)
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04-20-2010, 17:34
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Smuggling sea water?
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....Hmmm......Will I need a permit to buy a can of Morton's salt??................
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Smuggling sea water to condense into salt will become a crime.
After trips to the beach families will be required to go through desalination stations to extract the excess salt.
After all, it's for the children.
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