Christopher Dyer aka July4patriot

[Paslode]

I am hoping some of the keen Legal Minds can shed some light on this.

Charles Dryer known on YouTube as July4Patriot.

Mr. Dyer was apparently active in the Oathkeepers, American Resistance Movement and the Oklahoma Militia Movement.

In mid January of 2010 Mr. Dryer was arrested for the alleged rape and forcible sodomy of a child. During the search the sheriff’s deputies noted several firearms and a device believed to be a Colt M-203, 40-millimeter grenade launcher, a complaint was filed in the United States District Court of Western Oklahoma by Alcohol, Firearms and Tobacco Special.

Arrest Details

The M203 had been stolen from Fort Irwin in 2006. According to several news sources including the well balanced SPLC

Dyer told an FBI agent that his best friend had given him the grenade launcher while Dyer was stationed in California with the Marine Corps, according to court records.

Violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section 5871, referring to Section 5861(d), carries a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment and/or a $10,000 fine.

Then on April 13, 2010:

OKLAHOMA CITY — A jury in a federal courtroom Tuesday returned after several hours with a not guilty verdict for Charles Alan Dyer, who was charged in January with a federal complaint of possession of a grenade launcher.

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x99349...und-not-guilty

Now my question is how could a jury find a person not guilty when the person was knowingly in possession of a unregistered NFA Device and knowingly in possession of stolen Military property?

I don't know if this has any bearing on weapons charge, but if convicted of the alleged rape of his 7 year old daughter...The crime is punishable by up to one year in jail or life in prison and a fine up to $10,000.

[AngelsSix]

Someone agreed to a plea deal. Looks like the "Patriot" may not be such a patriot after all?? Save your skin and rat out your buddies.

Just my guess....

[craigepo]

Defendant was in jail when cops searched his house. Cops were given consent to search by a roommate. No doubt, when asked by the police, roommate said the weapon was defendant's.

This is a pretty easy case for a defense attorney. Only questions to ask the police are 1) was defendant present when you searched, and 2) who was present when you searched.

Defense attorney gets up, puts the roommate on trial. States, rightly, defendant was in jail, roommate was at the house, must have been roommate's. Generally, to be hit with possession, the defendant must be in control, or at least have access, to the area where the contraband is found. Voila, reasonable doubt.

That is about as weak a case as you will see federal prosecutors bring. Federal prosecutors win about 90% of their trials, in part because the deck is really stacked in their favor.

[Paslode]

I know I can't lend my legal NFA Device to anyone, it must be locked up, I must be on hand anytime it is used and I must have the paperwork in close proximity.....and there have been others who the BATFE pinched for far less infractions......So I was a bit perplexed and curious how a person with a unregistered and stolen military device could seemingly walk away.

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

Its simple. There was a resonable doubt. We were not there and did not hear the evidance. Remember he is INNOCENT until proven guilty. There are a lot of false accusations of child rape by former spouse or daughters of girlfriends that do not want some guy dating/married to their mom. As for the weapon charge we do not know the story there either. Was it stolen then rendered inoperable then sold to him? Remember he is aquitted of charges. Don't drink to koolaid from the media.

I only drink Miller Light and Guiness

[Utah Bob]

I'd have to read the trial transcript to figure out why he was acquitted.

[Last hard class]

Originally Posted by Paslode

I don't know if this has any bearing on weapons charge, but if convicted of the alleged rape of his 7 year old daughter...The crime is punishable by up to one year in jail or life in prison and a fine up to $10,000.

Is this correct?

Up to one year for raping a 7 year old? That would be a crime.

Not commenting on this particular case.

[craigepo]

Remember, he was found not guilty of the weapons charges in federal court. Sex charges are a state case, and are still pending.

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by Paslode

I don't know if this has any bearing on weapons charge, but if convicted of the alleged rape of his 7 year old daughter...The crime is punishable by up to one year in jail or life in prison and a fine up to $10,000.

I don't know of any state where a conviction of sexual assault on a 7 year old will only get a 1 year sentence.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Last hard class

Is this correct?

Up to one year for raping a 7 year old? That would be a crime.

Not commenting on this particular case.

That is what I read on several articles. But I also read in Oklahoma you can receive up to a Life Sentence depending on the severity of the sex crime.

It appears Dyers next court appearance is on May 25th, at which time the Court will decide whether allegations from the rabid ex-wife with a purported registered sex offender Uncle are true.

[Paslode]

I think I heard the Media and the Administration have been looking for..I mean were prepping us for the past month or so about Domestic Terrorists.

Joe Biden

Obama

FBI

DHS

And before all that there was the infamous MIAC report!

And back on 2010 it was said that 'Obama Needs OKC Bombing to “Reconnect with the American People”


Maybe they finally hit pay dirt!


http://www.newson6.com/story/1527265...type=printable

Dana Hertneky, News 9

DUNCAN, Oklahoma -- An ex-marine and Oklahoma militia man sparks a nationwide manhunt. Law enforcement leaders say they're afraid he is heavily armed and will do something drastic.

Stephens County Sheriff Wayne McKinney says Charles Dyer didn't show up for court Monday morning on charges he raped a 7-year-old family member.

But Dyer's family says he is a constitutional patriot that's been hounded by the government and is now left with few options.

Online, Charles Dyer is known as July 4 Patriot. Thousands view his videos and anti-government messages.

Sheriff McKinney says in the past, Dyer and his followers have threatened him and other law enforcement, and it's that history that has him concerned.

"Desperate people do desperate things," Sheriff McKinney said.

Dyer's home burned to the ground on Friday. An acquaintance of Dyer has been arrested for arson. The sheriff says Dyer's firearms were taken from the property.

"We're sure he's going to be armed," said Sheriff McKinney. "There's no doubt about that,"

"I do not believe he's dangerous until he's shoved into a corner," Dyer's sister Amy Dark said.

Dyer's family says he is innocent. They gave News 9 a three page e-mail Dyer sent to his attorney just after Midnight Monday.

Read part 1 of Charles Dyer's email

Read part 2 of Charles Dyer's email

Read part 3 of Charles Dyer's email

Dyer writes: "At every turn my family and I have been threatened and bullied by both the state and federal governments."

"I never had any intention of harming another human life and will still do all that I can to keep from it, but I also feel I have a god given right to protect myself and my family."

Dyer's family, however, says they just want what the sheriff does.

"I want it to end peacefully," Sheriff McKinney said.

Dyer ends his e-mail by telling his family if they do not hear from him within 90 days, he is dead and he failed them.

"If you see this Charlie, you need to come home," said Dark tearfully. "We want you to come home and finish the case."

If you know anything about Charles Dyer's, whereabouts call police immediately.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Paslode

I think I heard the Media and the Administration have been looking for..I mean were prepping us for the past month or so about Domestic Terrorists.

Many of us here are on that original list for one reason or another. When that hasn't played well...

Originally Posted by Paslode

And back on 2010 it was said that 'Obama Needs OKC Bombing to “Reconnect with the American People”


Maybe they finally hit pay dirt!

What SecState bloviating in Mexico can't' do, what the assault against Rep. Giffords hasn't done, what the Proj GW debacle has undermined...

Well, never let a good crisis go to waste.