"HURT LOCKER"

[Abu-Shakra]

Originally Posted by Penn

Gentleman, with all due respect; I have watch this thread develop with a growing sense of disbelief at the lack of SA on this subject matter; John Q. Public hasn’t a clue as to what the job requirements are, and in that sense, rather than ridiculing the messenger disguised as a movie, embrace the love while it last and think of the positive reinforcement the film has rendered to those in the service of our country.....and how that appreciation can be utilized. It makes no sense to criticize a transient media product when its sole purpose is to sell tickets.
It is PR….as in public relations. It is not.... authenticate the intricacy of an MOS...as a primary responsibility in being PC with the service MOS and then sell tickets.
Its a business, that cold, that simple. Get over the BS

Point taken. However, sorry, with all due respect, I'm not completely over it. I saw it, bitched about it and then forgot about it because it was worthy of being forgotten. I'm still tired of hearing about how great and "accurate" and "real" this damn movie is. With that I will continue to voice my displeasure with this movie.

[Trip_Wire (RIP)]

My take on the movie Hurt Locker.


I finally watched the movie Hurt Locker, the other night. I must say I did enjoy it! I thought it was very entertaining and for the most part did show the military and especially the EOD Community in a good light.

I haven't been to Iraq, nor have I served in a military EOD unit; however, I did serve as a Law Enforcement Bomb Technician from 1972 to 1984. The majority of my time in LE EOD, we didn't have Robots, Bomb Suits and much of the equipment that is available to both the military and LE today. In those days, it was a pen light and the X-Acto knife and a hands on approach, to include setting up the x-ray, etc.

The prime objective was to collect evidence which usually isn't a high priority for the military. Body armor was available; however, it wasn't any good and just got in the way. I had to laugh when he took off his suit on the one IED, I would have done the same thing. The fact is if that device would have gone off all the suit would have done (maybe) is keep the chunks larger.

So, yes I would have rather been comfortable in performing the RSP. I really didn't see a lot of BS on the RSP's that were conducted, given the circumstances. The largest IED I worked on contained 800 Pounds of 50 % Dynamite (The large diameter sticks.)

So, like I said earlier one has to keep in mind this is a MOVIE made in Hollywood, for the entertainment of civilians who don't know squat about EOD, RSPs or the military in general. It is not a training film!* The Military EOD, given their size have had a lot of casualties doing their job in both theaters of the war and deserve all the praise they can get. They have no doubt saved many people's ass's there!

It irritates the hell out of me when people who are not EOD criticize this movie, on the basis of the EOD work when they have never had to put on a bomb suit and work one one one with an IED. The bomb suit is worthless when one is confronted by an IED the size shown in the movie, nor could a Robot rendered that device safe.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Trip_Wire

My take on the movie Hurt Locker.


I finally watched the movie Hurt Locker, the other night. I must say I did enjoy it! I thought it was very entertaining and for the most part did show the military and especially the EOD Community in a good light.

I haven't been to Iraq, nor have I served in a military EOD unit; however, I did serve as a Law Enforcement Bomb Technician from 1972 to 1984. The majority of my time in LE EOD, we didn't have Robots, Bomb Suits and much of the equipment that is available to both the military and LE today. In those days, it was a pen light and the X-Acto knife and a hands on approach, to include setting up the x-ray, etc.

The prime objective was to collect evidence which usually isn't a high priority for the military. Body armor was available; however, it wasn't any good and just got in the way. I had to laugh when he took off his suit on the one IED, I would have done the same thing. The fact is if that device would have gone off all the suit would have done (maybe) is keep the chunks larger.

So, yes I would have rather been comfortable in performing the RSP. I really didn't see a lot of BS on the RSP's that were conducted, given the circumstances. The largest IED I worked on contained 800 Pounds of 50 % Dynamite (The large diameter sticks.)

So, like I said earlier one has to keep in mind this is a MOVIE made in Hollywood, for the entertainment of civilians who don't know squat about EOD, RSPs or the military in general. It is not a training film!* The Military EOD, given their size have had a lot of casualties doing their job in both theaters of the war and deserve all the praise they can get. They have no doubt saved many people's ass's there!

It irritates the hell out of me when people who are not EOD criticize this movie, on the basis of the EOD work when they have never had to put on a bomb suit and work one one one with an IED. The bomb suit is worthless when one is confronted by an IED the size shown in the movie, nor could a Robot rendered that device safe.

Good enough for me. In my earlier post with the writer's interview, I felt that he was sincere in his effort.

I will see it now.

Thanks TW.

Pat

[Dozer523]

Originally Posted by Penn

Gentleman, with all due respect; I have watch this thread develop with a growing sense of disbelief at the lack of SA on this subject matter; John Q. Public hasn’t a clue as to what the job requirements are, Come to think of it, the only thing I know about EOD is I don't want to do it. and in that sense, rather than ridiculing the messenger disguised as a movie, embrace the love while it last and think of the positive reinforcement the film has rendered to those in the service of our country.....and how that appreciation can be utilized. yup. It makes no sense to criticize a transient media product when its sole purpose is to sell tickets. When you're right you're right (but it is so much fun to bitch)
It is PR….as in public relations. It is not.... authenticate the intricacy of an MOS...as a primary responsibility in being PC with the service MOS and then sell tickets.
Its a business, that cold, that simple. Get over the BS

I took a guy to Afghanistan who drew story-boards. He drew a hilarious story board of a day at Camp Eggers.

[Big Boss]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Well reviewed by whom? NOT Soldiers.

1. The cowboy BULLSHIT that Hollywood loves to glorify. That crap would have gotten him fired or killed. From him skipping the robot to detect/defuse - to the "Let's slit up! you go left, you go right I'll go up the center - oh shit one of my guys got captured!" Moronic tactics...

2. The fact they did it (cowboy crap) with a character that was from Ranger Regiment only highlights how clueless they are. The Rangers I know are ultra disciplined. That crap would have gotten him fired from the Regiment so fast he wouldn't have known what hit him.

3. The stupid scenarios through out. SAS surrendering to US forces? Then acting like they don't know what the hell they're doing when the enemy shoots at them? Not treating casualties or evacuating the dead? The US forces with fully functional vehicle just hanging out in the kill zone for hours despite the ability to easily exfil? The list goes on...

4. The patchwork of short stories clearly cut and pasted together.

5. the first 20 minutes or so of the movie that was clearly an advertisement for the EOD Remote Robots.

6. The fact he's running around defusing bombs that clearly should have been blown in place.

7. The WAR CRIME that the COLONEL winked and smiled about ordering the death of a detainee? WTF!!!

8. The Obnoxious praise the COLONEL gave to the Cowboy, hot dog JACK-ASS for his stupidity? He should have been chewing that guys ass for the stunts he pulled that almost got his team killed...WTF!

9. Not in the mood to continue...it was crap.

Eat your popcorn - enjoy your coke - but don't tell me this was a good movie.

I wish we had that "bowing down" smiley face because "Hurt Locker", you just got served..

[dr. mabuse]

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[Max_Tab]

I have already stated in here why I enjoyed the movie. Here is why I am glad it won.

This is the first hollywood movie that has not depicted Afghanistan or Iraq from a leftist, anti-war perspective. This was a movie that showed soldiers in a positive light, who cares if he used his peltors as a radio to talk to the guys on his team.

American's like the "cowboy/lone wolf" character, and the fact that EOD is a risky dangerous job they have to be "crazy" to do it. Just think of the whole Top Gun, type movie, they emphasized it with this movie.

[Penn]

La Times LA March 9th

Hurt locker was a return to the classic hollywood product

For though it was made with very modern skills, technologies and attitudes, "The Hurt Locker" at its core is a throwback to a time as far back as 1944, when "Casablanca" was the best of the 10-movie field, and the major studios were in the day-in day-out business of making smart, exciting, character-driven films intended primarily for a grown-up audience

Read all about it here

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar...ran9-2010mar09

On a side note, while this thread endless wound its way to uselessness, did anyone here track the Lahore vb on the intell center and the relate strikes that the pakistanins were executing as a result of the capture of several interesting AQ's, imho AQ mounted a strike directly at the center that was holding some very important terrorist who were giving up some info.
It is interesting to watch an organization getting hit from all angles and still able to execute the important play. That attack was a big deal, but from here that movie should have been more...ah...I don't know...real

[Team Sergeant]

First "dear john" and now you guys are actually discussing "hurt locker"?

(We have failed in creating a "Special Forces" website, I must now go and commit sepaku with a dull short sword, maybe a spoon. Team Sergeant)

[orion5]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

We have failed in creating a "Special Forces" website, I must now go and commit sepaku with a dull short sword, maybe a spoon.

LMAO. No, TS, don't leave us!!!

[Joe_Snuffy]

TS, at least they aren't discussing REALLY girly movies or trying to "accessorize" [whatever that means ].

I'm going to have to track down The Green Berets now. Haven't seen it, but if QPs give it a thumbs up, it can't be that bad.

[Wolf07]

The Green Berets is on youtube, in its entirety.

[Joe_Snuffy]

Originally Posted by Wolf07

The Green Berets is on youtube, in its entirety.

Roger, thank you.

[Sten]

The owners of the site do not take kindly to piracy.

http://www.amazon.com/Green-Berets-J...8241905&sr=8-2

[Joe_Snuffy]

Originally Posted by Sten

The owners of the site do not take kindly to piracy.

http://www.amazon.com/Green-Berets-J...8241905&sr=8-2

Even better!

Thanks Sten!