A Federal CCW, Who wants it?

[Buck]

Originally Posted by HowardCohodas

I'll go along with our "cons," especially since I have made the same arguments to my students when the issue of open carry comes up. However, those who advocate open carry frequently have more thoughtful reasons. Not the least are that many states have open carry laws that predate concealed carry laws. Thus, open carry is permitted more freely and can serve to be a counterpoint to the "no carry" crowd. In many ways I'm grateful to them since I am unwilling to do it myself.

Interesting comment, when one considers the irony in your tagline in your signature

Buck

Originally Posted by Buck

Interesting comment, when one considers the irony in your tagline in your signature

Buck

Guilty. Like many things in my life, my accomplishments don't always reach my aspirations. But I like to keep my goal in front of me as a reminder to do better.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Utah Bob

The pro of open carry is you can feel like a real stud with that iron on your hip.
The cons are that everybody now knows you are armed. This freaks some people out and they call the cops. It also lets any bad guys present know you have a nice gun that they may want.
I prefer to carry concealed. YMMV.

Here's a website for open carry advocates. Open Carry

Arizona is a big "open carry" state, you see individuals all the time carrying in the open, no sweat. It's gone on for decades. It's no big deal here. If you have a permit you should and are asked to carry concealed. The only individuals that are surprised to see individuals carrying here are from Kalif, NYC and Massachusetts, the states that want cradle to grave goberment assistance.

[Arctic]

Well my first observation is that while I was training on Camp Pendleton I saw a lot of marines with hip holsters and side arms. Almost every building entry way I think had a 55 gallon drum filled with sand and a small cut out to discharge your weapon into safely after you removed the mag. (SOP to enter a building was clearing your weapon and discharging the charged hammer into the barrel I assume and no they weren’t fancy marine ash trays. ) This was some time ago for myself so if anyone has anything else on it go ahead.

My second observation is the fact that a Federal CCW would be redundant. Holding a CCW is like holding a marriage license or drivers license, i.e. covered under Article IV, Section 1 of the United States Constitution, “Such Acts, records and judicial proceedings or copies thereof, so authenticated, shall have the same full faith and credit in every court within the US and its Territories and Possessions as they have by law or usage in the courts of such State, Territory or Possession from which they are taken.
The full faith and credit clause explains reciprocity in licenses, and extradition in crimes.”

Disclaimer :: Don’t take this the wrong way many states can and do make laws that conflict with the U.S. constitution, unless you want to be that person that sues the hell out the local government for impinging on your constitutional right, do your own research.

[Arctic]

From a counter terrorist view I just remembered a discussion I had a couple Christmases back, sitting in a crowded mall watching all the sheep walking around, I thought how tragic it would be if instead of trying to kill us on planes some T’s walked into the mall and malls all across America at the same time and started slinging lead and explosives till they ran out or died. Very much akin to the 2008 Mumbai, India attacks, that’s a real reason for the people to get their CCW permits… No one wants to invade America because everyone has a gun or five, but catching us with our pants down is fairly easy with all these laws we’ll have to go home to get them, which requires even more time because the guns and ammo need to be stored in separate secured locations etc etc etc.

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Arizona is a big "open carry" state, you see individuals all the time carrying in the open, no sweat. It's gone on for decades. It's no big deal here. If you have a permit you should and are asked to carry concealed. The only individuals that are surprised to see individuals carrying here are from Kalif, NYC and Massachusetts, the states that want cradle to grave goberment assistance.

True. It's an accepted common practice in Arizona.
Alas even though open carry is not prohibited in Colorado, if you go into most larger towns heeled someone will be on their cellphone to the local PD and many young cops don't know it's not illegal.
I always carry open here on the property but when I go into Cortez, I tuck it away.

[FMF DOC]

Would like it to be state by state but as mentioned above have all other states honor it... Hell keep it on your current drivers liecense like the box(space) for organ donor. If your ever pulled over or whenever you got to show your ID it's marked right there for all to see that you have the right to Conceal & Carry.
my 2cents

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by FMF DOC

Would like it to be state by state but as mentioned above have all other states honor it... Hell keep it on your current drivers liecense like the box(space) for organ donor. If your ever pulled over or whenever you got to show your ID it's marked right there for all to see that you have the right to Conceal & Carry.
my 2cents

No need to put it on the license. Currently, whenever you're pulled over and they run your driver license, your ccw will be indicated on the computer.

Originally Posted by Utah Bob

No need to put it on the license. Currently, whenever you're pulled over and they run your driver license, your ccw will be indicated on the computer.

Hmmm... I don't think that this is true for Ohio, but I'll check.

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by HowardCohodas

Hmmm... I don't think that this is true for Ohio, but I'll check.

Can't speak for Ohio but it's pretty standard in most states.

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

It is defenatly not the case in California. In CA the local LE agencie issues the CCW usually the Sheriff Department, but some city departments do as well. They keep all records etc and DMV has Zero to do with the CCW's.

Colorado also issues ccw through the local sheriff. But the info goes into the state system. I'm really surprised that California is different.