Fort Hood Shooting

[Snaquebite]

Originally Posted by The Reaper
Did they award the PH to those in the Pentagon on 9/11?

TR

Yes.

Written by Ernest McDermon
Monday, 09 November 2009 11:21
Open Letter to Your Senator: Will the Obama Administration Approve Purple Hearts for Fort Hood Soldiers Who Were Killed and Wounded by Major Hasan?

By Ernest McDermon, Atlanta, Georgia

One of our occasional columnists is sending this letter to his Senator, who happens to sit on both the Senate Armed Forces Committee and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. We thought our readers might consider sending a similar letter to their Congressman or Senators

Dear Senator:

I believe that the jihad inspired attack on our soldiers at Ft. Hood, TX this past Thursday is but the latest in a long line of Islamist attacks on the United States and our Armed Forces.


It is reliably reported that Major Hasan yelled out "Allahu Akbar" ("God is Great") immediately before launching his attack at Fort Hood. Additionally, both in Great Britain and the United States, reports are surfacing that Major Hasan attended a mosque in Great Falls, VA at the same time that Nawaf al-Hazmi and Hani Hanjour (two of the 9/11 terrorists) attended, and at the same time that a radical Islamic cleric was the imam of the mosque.

I do not believe this is merely a "coincidence", and it is highly likely that the beginnings of Major Hasan's nascent Islamist thoughts began in that mosque, and it is possible that he was recruited as an Al Qaeda "sleeper" by the two 9/11 plotters that he would certainly have known.



More.....


http://www.rightsidenews.com/2009110...-soldiers.html

[Richard]

Not once did the POTUS look into the faces of those at Fort Hood. He moved from side to side (teleprompter to teleprompter) never once looking forward into the crowd. Every so ofter he glanced off to the side of his tele, but not once out into the service men and women standing before him.

Ever deliver a eulogy? Once you look into their faces, you're done - at least that's how it was for me.

Richard's $.02

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by Richard

Ever deliver a eulogy? Once you look into their faces, you're done - at least that's how it was for me.

Richard's $.02

I have to quote TR's response from a different forum,but as meaningful and as important...I'm also disturbed by Gen. Casey's decision on this......It' was a terrorist act pure and simple and they should receive their Purple Hearts.........

Big Teddy

[SF_BHT]

Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

I have to quote TR's response from a different forum,but as meaningful and as important...I'm also disturbed by Gen. Casey's decision on this......It' was a terrorist act pure and simple and they should receive their Purple Hearts.........

Big Teddy

I am one who will not defend the constant errors the Great O does but I am with Richard. I have to agree with his comment's....... I have had to give a few eulogy's and if you look them in the eyes you will not get through it. I was watching his speach carefully and would jump on him if needed but I was pleased with his presentation compared to his past acts.....

I also agree with TR's comments ref Gen casey......

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by SF_BHT

I am one who will not defend the constant errors the Great O does but I am with Richard. I have to agree with his comment's....... I have had to give a few eulogy's and if you look them in the eyes you will not get through it. I was watching his speach carefully and would jump on him if needed but I was pleased with his presentation compared to his past acts.....

I also agree with TR's comments ref Gen casey......

I agree also.

[Chris Cram]

I have had to give a few eulogy's and if you look them in the eyes you will not get through it.

Gentlemen, I think you are projecting your Character into this situation.

As unsettling as it would imply, I suspect any unease that our President
experienced, was related to his lack of compassion. His lack of connection
to those whom he was addressing... From his book, he stated that the
knowledge of his brothers death, strangely had no emotional impact.

But then I could be mistaken.

[P36]

I hated the President's red tie. The stripes were fucked up.

[BigJimCalhoun]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

You mean like praising conference attendees, mistaking a Medal of Freedom for a Medal of Honor recipient, and offering shout-outs to his buds for 2:30 before mentioning 43 casualties of a Muslim terrorist?

TR

When I think of the term "shout-out", I think of something a radio DJ says for listeners in various communities in the broadcast area, not something a president says at a news conference the day of an attack. I was beside myself when I heard that sound clip, as I am sure most of you here were.

[incarcerated]

Originally Posted by BigJimCalhoun

When I think of the term "shout-out", I think of something a radio DJ says for listeners in various communities in the broadcast area, not something a president says at a news conference the day of an attack. I was beside myself when I heard that sound clip, as I am sure most of you here were.

In case you missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hiw8iXdMM

[Warrior-Mentor]

Originally Posted by Snaquebite

Written by Ernest McDermon
Monday, 09 November 2009 11:21
Open Letter to Your Senator: Will the Obama Administration Approve Purple Hearts for Fort Hood Soldiers Who Were Killed and Wounded by Major Hasan?

By Ernest McDermon, Atlanta, Georgia

Dear Senator:

I believe that the jihad inspired attack on our soldiers at Ft. Hood, TX this past Thursday is but the latest in a long line of Islamist attacks on the United States and our Armed Forces.


It is reliably reported that Major Hasan yelled out "Allahu Akbar" ("God is Great") immediately before launching his attack at Fort Hood. Additionally, both in Great Britain and the United States, reports are surfacing that Major Hasan attended a mosque in Great Falls, VA at the same time that Nawaf al-Hazmi and Hani Hanjour (two of the 9/11 terrorists) attended, and at the same time that a radical Islamic cleric was the imam of the mosque.

I do not believe this is merely a "coincidence", and it is highly likely that the beginnings of Major Hasan's nascent Islamist thoughts began in that mosque, and it is possible that he was recruited as an Al Qaeda "sleeper" by the two 9/11 plotters that he would certainly have known.

More.....

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2009110...-soldiers.html

This is an EXCELLENT IDEA...and NOT JUST your Senators...
with couple changes you could easily add your Representatives and State Governors to the list...

His action items are a great guide for the way ahead.

Putting his full letter here for preservation:

Open Letter to Your Senator: Will the Obama Administration Approve Purple Hearts for Fort Hood Soldiers Who Were Killed and Wounded by Major Hasan?

By Ernest McDermon, Atlanta, Georgia

One of our occasional columnists is sending this letter to his Senator, who happens to sit on both the Senate Armed Forces Committee and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. We thought our readers might consider sending a similar letter to their Congressman or Senators:

Dear Senator:

I believe that the jihad inspired attack on our soldiers at Ft. Hood, TX this past Thursday is but the latest in a long line of Islamist attacks on the United States and our Armed Forces.

It is reliably reported that Major Hasan yelled out "Allahu Akbar" ("God is Great") immediately before launching his attack at Fort Hood. Additionally, both in Great Britain and the United States, reports are surfacing that Major Hasan attended a mosque in Great Falls, VA at the same time that Nawaf al-Hazmi and Hani Hanjour (two of the 9/11 terrorists) attended, and at the same time that a radical Islamic cleric was the imam of the mosque.

I do not believe this is merely a "coincidence", and it is highly likely that the beginnings of Major Hasan's nascent Islamist thoughts began in that mosque, and it is possible that he was recruited as an Al Qaeda "sleeper" by the two 9/11 plotters that he would certainly have known.

Subsequent to the 9/11 attacks, I would venture the guess that Major Hasan failed to disclose on any of his Security Clearance questionnaires the connection with the al Hijarh Islamic Center, the radical imam, Anwar Aulaqi, and the fact that two 9/11 hijackers were known to him. I suspect that a review of any security questionnaires that he has completed since 9/11/2001 will disclose that he deliberately lied about his association with known terrorist organizations or members of Al Qaeda.

It is also being reported in the media that Major Hasan planned this attack carefully, obtaining two semi-automatic pistols each capable of carrying multiple rounds, and he apparently carried multiple magazines of ammunition for rapid reloading to inflict maximum casualties in close quarters against unarmed military personnel. The soldiers he killed and wounded were then in preparation for movement to overseas combat theaters within days or a few short weeks.

I believe that he chose his target deliberately to disrupt the flow of replacements to forward areas, and to inflict not just physical harm to our soldiers, but also instill the fear of fighting against the Islamist jihad in our soldiers both in the US and overseas.

As a Physician and a Psychiatrist, having counseled returning combat veterans and soldiers about to deploy, it can be argued that Major Hasan knew his actions would have a Psychological Operations effect on our soldiers' morale and "will to fight" well beyond the boundaries of Fort Hood. He knew that this type of "sudden jihadist" attack on US soil would cause a distrust of fellow Muslim soldiers worldwide, and... for US soldiers of the Muslim faith, instill a feeling of them being under suspicion and a desire to adhere closer to the core tenants of Islam...and jihad.

It appears that both the Obama Administration and Army Chief of Staff General Casey are trying to downplay this watershed event in the war as simply a "criminal act". It is not. Major Hasan's actions are treason, and he should be considered an illegal combatant under the terms of the Geneva Conventions.

Unfortunately Major Hasan's actions cause problems for the Obama Administration politically on a variety of fronts:

Major Hasan's immediate supervisors are indicating that they had already identified him as a problem for having argued with his patients about the United States' "waging war on "Muslims". They did not report this further up the chain of command for fear of retribution for the perception that they might have singled him out for disciplinary action because of his Muslim beliefs. The command environment that exists currently at Ft. Hood appears to have the unhappy consequence of minimizing security threats posed by hidden jihadist sleepers, and not encouraging supervisors to report up the chain of command soldiers who harbor, and in Major Hasan's case, express sympathies with the enemy. This environment of (for want of a better word) deference to the sensibilities of Muslims, has resulted in the loss of 13 killed and 30 wounded soldiers.

General Cone should not be considered for further promotion, and probably relieved of command for failing to properly secure the Fort Hood installation in wartime.

General Casey, Chief of Staff of the Army is working to treat this event as a "criminal act" and not a wartime "terrorist attack". This foolish, "politically correct" thinking is what lead to the 9/11 attacks: a failure to properly identify, and react to, a deliberate attack on the United States by an Islamist terrorist with the tacit support of Al Qaeda.

The Obama Administration's heart is not in the fight against the Islamists and their efforts to impose Shari'a Law worldwide by force. The Administration's attempts to classify the War on Terror as "overseas contingency operations", and attacks like this as "man caused disasters" shows a weakness of character at the highest levels of the Obama Administration. The current President is not interested in defending the nation, but is solely interested in transforming our society into a Socialist State. Mr. Obama does not want any distractions like the combat deaths of 13 US Soldiers this past week on US soil to cause distraction from his political agenda.

I ask that as a member of the Senate Armed Forces Committee and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that you consider the following actions on behalf of Georgia and our Armed Forces:

1. Support Senator Joe Lieberman's efforts to classify this event as a terrorist attack.

2. Ask that the command at Fort Hood approve recommendations for the award of the Purple Heart to the 13 soldiers killed and those who were wounded. I believe that this will be a major political issue nationally by the end of this week after the first funerals are held and the families realize their loved ones haven't received Purple Hearts.

3. Inquire as to whether or not the Army plans to charge Major Hasan with treason, and if not, why not? He is a Field Grade Officer, afforded special considerations, deference and pay. His actions betray not just his fellow soldiers, but all United States Armed Forces Commissioned and Non-Commissioned Officers.

4. Inquire as to whether or not Major Hasan lied on any Security Questionnaires since 9/11 about his involvement with Islamic extremists.

5. Conduct closed door hearings on the security ramifications of the loyalties of Armed Forces members of the Muslim faith. Are there any others like Major Hasan that our Commanders are aware of, but aren't reporting for fear of retribution as being "culturally insensitive"?

6. Review the security posture of our US based forces. It seems that the Obama Administration has dialed security down to the point that we're losing active duty service members on US soil. Regardless of what the Obama Administration would like to believe, our Nation is at war...our US based military installations should be secured as if they are at war also. The recent intrusion at the South Carolina nuclear weapons storage facility without reaction from the base underscores the urgency of this review.

Ernest McDermon, Atlanta, GA

[afchic]

I have been debating with myself on whether I was going to make my thoughts about some of the recent posts about the POTUS known. I have come to the conclusion that there are some on this board, that no matter what the POTUS says or does, you will find fault with. YOu are certianly entitlted to your opinion, but one person cannot be wrong 100% of the time, just as no person can be right 100% of the time.

The President did a fine job at Ft Hood for the memorial service, IMHO. Everyone does things differently, and I agree with Richard that maybe the reason he didn't make eye contact is because he would have lost it, not because he was unfeeling, or uncapable of doing so.

I lost my uncle not too long ago, and I made it through the entire ceremony by not looking at my aunt (who I love more than life itself), but finally lost it when I glanced at her during the playing of taps and the 21 gun salute. My mother and husband had to hold me up to keep me from collapsing under my grief.

I have had occasion to do the same at the funerals of the local fallen, who I have never met. How dare anyone crticize how another handles their grief. None of us are in the POTUS head or heart. No one knows if perhaps he broke down while speaking with the family members. It might behoove us to keep our opinions to ourselves until we become omnipotenet.

There is plenty to critisize this POTUS about, but when we sink down to complaining about EVERY word, and EVERY action, we become what many of us hated during the last administration. How often did we jump on people in the MSM because they believe GWB could do nothing right? And critisized him at every turn for being a country bumpkin who did not grasp the English language? Yet we have no problem with doing it with Obama.

I am just a air transporter at heart, and we have a saying. "If all cargo is 999 then none of it is 999!!!!!" 999 refers to the MOST IMPORTANT STUFF to be moved. I think we would be better served if we saved the pettiness, and spoke out stongly about the issues that truly deserve our outrage.

Just my meager .02 cents worth

[Richard]

1. Support Senator Joe Lieberman's efforts to classify this event as a terrorist attack.

3. Inquire as to whether or not the Army plans to charge Major Hasan with treason, and if not, why not? He is a Field Grade Officer, afforded special considerations, deference and pay. His actions betray not just his fellow soldiers, but all United States Armed Forces Commissioned and Non-Commissioned Officers.

IMO, the KISS Principle is important here and MAJ Hasan:

• Committed - by definition and for whatever political or ideological reason(s)- an act of terrorism.
  
• Committed murder of soldiers on a military installation and should be tried under the long established articles of the UCMJ for such actions.
  
• Would only benefit from being charged with treason as it would assuredly trigger an emotionally charged obfuscatory response from many sectors and add nothing to the murder charges.

And FWIW - I concur with afchic's Force Activity Designator example in regards to the usefulness of an on-going petty vs important issues criticism of the POTUS.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

[kimberly]

Originally Posted by afchic

I have been debating with myself on whether I was going to make my thoughts about some of the recent posts about the POTUS known. I have come to the conclusion that there are some on this board, that no matter what the POTUS says or does, you will find fault with. YOu are certianly entitlted to your opinion, but one person cannot be wrong 100% of the time, just as no person can be right 100% of the time.

The President did a fine job at Ft Hood for the memorial service, IMHO. Everyone does things differently, and I agree with Richard that maybe the reason he didn't make eye contact is because he would have lost it, not because he was unfeeling, or uncapable of doing so.

I lost my uncle not too long ago, and I made it through the entire ceremony by not looking at my aunt (who I love more than life itself), but finally lost it when I glanced at her during the playing of taps and the 21 gun salute. My mother and husband had to hold me up to keep me from collapsing under my grief.

I have had occasion to do the same at the funerals of the local fallen, who I have never met. How dare anyone crticize how another handles their grief. None of us are in the POTUS head or heart. No one knows if perhaps he broke down while speaking with the family members. It might behoove us to keep our opinions to ourselves until we become omnipotenet.

There is plenty to critisize this POTUS about, but when we sink down to complaining about EVERY word, and EVERY action, we become what many of us hated during the last administration. How often did we jump on people in the MSM because they believe GWB could do nothing right? And critisized him at every turn for being a country bumpkin who did not grasp the English language? Yet we have no problem with doing it with Obama.

I am just a air transporter at heart, and we have a saying. "If all cargo is 999 then none of it is 999!!!!!" 999 refers to the MOST IMPORTANT STUFF to be moved. I think we would be better served if we saved the pettiness, and spoke out stongly about the issues that truly deserve our outrage.

Just my meager .02 cents worth

Message received. You make a good point.

[Dozer523]

DefenseNews.com
November 12, 2009

Gates To National Security Leakers: 'Just Shut Up'

By John T. Bennett

ABOARD DEFENSE SECRETARY'S PLANE -- In very blunt language, a visibly irritated U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he is "appalled by the amount of" information government officials have leaked to the press during the president's Afghanistan strategy review.

Talking with reporters Nov. 12 aboard his jet en route to a military vehicle factory in Wisconsin, the secretary said such disclosures of sensitive information on any "options under consideration" does not serve the nation well. Nor are they in the U.S. military's strategic interests, he added.

If Gates learns of any Defense Department employees who have leaked information about the war strategy review, he warned, "That would probably be a career ender."

He showed the same irritation over leaks about the Fort Hood, Texas, shootings. All individuals involved in or privy to the ongoing investigation into the killing spree "should just shut up," Gates told reporters.

Leakers need to realize they only have "one piece" of the picture about why 13 soldiers were killed and dozens more were wounded last week.

He said it is best to let investigators handling the mass murder probe and collect all possible data before reaching conclusions about the alleged shooter's intentions, motivations or associations.

[Warrior-Mentor]

Originally Posted by afchic

YOu are certianly entitlted to your opinion, but one person cannot be wrong 100% of the time, just as no person can be right 100% of the time.

Just my meager .02 cents worth

Although I will agree that no one can be right 100% of the time,
you have incorrectly transposed this to mean that no one can be wrong 100% of the time.

Being wrong is much easier than being right. And some can "succeed" in being wrong 100% of the time.