Fort Hood Shooting

[MackallResident]

AT THE DIRECTION OF THE SECRETARY OF THE ARMY, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WILL BE OBSERVED TODAY, 6 NOVEMBER 2009, AT 061934Z (1434 HRS LOCAL) AT ALL WORLDWIDE US MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND ARMY VESSELS TO HONOR THE MEMORIES OF THE VICTIMS OF THE SHOOTING INCIDENT AT FORT HOOD, TX ON 5 NOVEMBER 2009.


SUBJECT: MOMENT OF SILENCE TO HONOR THE MEMORIES OF THE VICTIMS OF THE SHOOTING INCIDENT AT FORT HOOD

THIS ALARACT MESSAGE IS RELEASED ON BEHALF OF THE (SEC)RETARY OF THE ARMY

1. (U) THERE ARE MOMENTS THAT CAUSE GREAT PAUSE EVEN FOR THE STEADFAST. THE TRAGEDY OF THE SHOOTINGS AT FORT HOOD IS SUCH A MOMENT. OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED AND WOUNDED. OUR WARRIOR ETHOS STATES THAT WE WILL NEVER LEAVE A FALLEN COMRADE. OUR ARMY IS STRONG. OUR CHARACTER IS PROVEN IN BATTLE AND RELIABLE IN ALL CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE MOST DISAPPOINTING OF CIRCUMSTANCES. PROFESSIONALISM IS OUR WATCHWORD. COMPASSION IS THE UNIQUE MEASURE OF THE AMERICAN SOLDIER AND THE ARMY FAMILY.
2. (U) I CALL UPON OUR ARMY TO JOIN TOGETHER IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE, TO HONOR THE SERVICE OF THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES AND TO REFLECT ON THE MERITS OF OUR OWN SERVICE AND THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ONE ANOTHER AND THIS NATION. WE COMMEND OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO THE FAMILIES OF THOSE SUFFERING IN THE AFTERMATH OF THIS EVENT. WE WILL MAINTAIN OUR FOCUS ON CARING FOR EACH OTHER AND THE ARMY FAMILY AND EMERGE FROM THIS TRAGIC EVENT AS AN ARMY STRONG COMMUNITY. MAY GOD BLESS OUR ARMY AND MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA.
3. (U) AT THE DIRECTION OF THE (SEC)RETARY OF THE ARMY, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WILL BE OBSERVED TODAY, 6 NOVEMBER 2009, AT 061934Z (1334 HRS CENTRAL TIME) AT ALL WORLDWIDE US MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND ARMY VESSELS TO HONOR THE MEMORIES OF THE VICTIMS OF THE SHOOTING INCIDENT AT FORT HOOD, TX ON 5 NOVEMBER 2009.


Cliffnotes:
SOA: Official Army moment of silence today @ 1334CST.

[Warrior-Mentor]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Did they award the PH to those in the Pentagon on 9/11?

TR

Yes.

[bandycpa]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Did they award the PH to those in the Pentagon on 9/11?

TR

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...6-27332531_ITM

Purple hearts for Pentagon casualties; Defense of Freedom Medal for civilians. (Security).(2001 terrorist attacks)(Brief Article)
VFW Magazine
| November 01, 2001 |

The Pentagon announced Sept. 27 that all U.S. military personnel killed or wounded in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks will receive the Purple Heart. Civilian Department of Defense workers killed or wounded will receive the newly created Defense of Freedom Medal.

Most of those eligible for the medals are casualties of the attack on the Pentagon, but some were killed or wounded at the World Trade Center in New York and in the hijacked airliner that crashed in Pennsylvania. Charles Abell, the Pentagon's assistant secretary for force management, said about 90 civilians are eligible for the new medal.

Yes. (Article originally from VFW magazine. I only posted the preview of it here).


Bandy

[Coldsteel24]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Political Correctness and CAIR prevent it.

You pay hundreds of thousands to educate this guy and give him a career, but you cannot kick him out without someone (ACLU, CAIR) suing you.

Perhaps some recall that recently, an award was made to the Muslims who were acting suspiciously on a flight and were later removed. They won the case against the airlines, and tried to sue the fellow passengers who reported their behavior. We have truly got our heads in the sands ignoring the terrorists walking among us, and using our laws against us.

TR

Sir,

You provoke a great deal of thought.

If I may step out of my lane and pose the question; would it be up to us as individuals to find a way to combat the threat?

[TOMAHAWK9521]

Originally Posted by Coldsteel24

Sir,

You provoke a great deal of thought.

If I may step out of my lane and pose the question; would it be up to us as individuals to find a way to combat the threat?

Look at the folks who took down the would-be shoe-bomber. A passenger noticed him trying to light the fuse and called it out. If I recall, he was dog-piled and had the living sh*t beat out of him before he was restrained.

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by Coldsteel24

Sir,

You provoke a great deal of thought.

If I may step out of my lane and pose the question; would it be up to us as individuals to find a way to combat the threat?

Yes.

#7 from Sir Robert Peel's Nine Principles of Policing - 1829

Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that ]the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence

[Roguish Lawyer]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/...ley/index.html

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Yes.

Then these soldiers should get it as well.

Originally Posted by Coldsteel24

Sir,

You provoke a great deal of thought.

If I may step out of my lane and pose the question; would it be up to us as individuals to find a way to combat the threat?

Yes. Get out and vote for the right people. Take your friends to register and to the polls. Report suspicious activity. Use your SA. Be a good citizen.

TR

[Warrior-Mentor]

COMMENT: What are we supposed to conclude when the shooter yelled "ALLAH AKBAR!" before he started shooting?

There's a reason some comments are highlighted in YELLOW.


Obama says don't jump to conclusions on shooting
Nov 6, 2009
BEN FELLER
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama said Friday the entire nation is grieving for those slain at Fort Hood, and he urged people not to jump to conclusions while law enforcement officers investigate the shootings.

Obama met Friday morning with FBI Director Robert Mueller and other federal leaders to get an update on what they've learned. Thirteen people were killed and 30 others injured in the shooting rampage at the Texas Army post on Thursday. The suspected shooter is an Army psychiatrist; his motive remains unclear.

"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement otherwise devoted to the economy.

"What we do know is that there are families, friends and an entire nation grieving right now for the valiant men and women who came under attack yesterday," the president said.

His aides, meanwhile, worked to make way for Obama to attend a still unscheduled memorial service for those slain at the nation's largest military post. The White House's top spokesman said Obama would attend that service and emphasized it would take place at the family's convenience, and that it will not be dictated by the president's schedule.

"When a service is scheduled, the president will attend," Robert Gibbs told reporters during his daily briefing.

Yet Obama is also scheduled to leave on a 10-day trip to Asia on Wednesday. Gibbs would not rule out delaying the trip so Obama could attend the service before setting off on the major international trip of the year.

Gibbs said the president's schedule remains in flux.

Obama ordered the flags at the White House and other federal buildings to be at half-staff until Veterans Day. He called it a modest tribute to those who were slain and to those who put their lives on the line in the armed services each day.

"We stand in awe of their sacrifice, and we pray for the safety of those who fight, and for the families of those who have fallen," he said.

The president promised that that his administration would update the nation as it learns more about what happened, and why, at Fort Hood.

The suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, was shot and remains hospitalized.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

[Warrior-Mentor]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Then these soldiers should get it [the PURPLE HEART]as well.

TR

I agree.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

COMMENT: What are we supposed to conclude when the shooter yelled "ALLAH AKBAR!" before he started shooting?

There's a reason some comments are highlighted in YELLOW.


Obama says don't jump to conclusions on shooting
Nov 6, 2009
BEN FELLER
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama said Friday the entire nation is grieving for those slain at Fort Hood, and he urged people not to jump to conclusions while law enforcement officers investigate the shootings.

Obama met Friday morning with FBI Director Robert Mueller and other federal leaders to get an update on what they've learned. Thirteen people were killed and 30 others injured in the shooting rampage at the Texas Army post on Thursday. The suspected shooter is an Army psychiatrist; his motive remains unclear.

"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement otherwise devoted to the economy.

"What we do know is that there are families, friends and an entire nation grieving right now for the valiant men and women who came under attack yesterday," the president said.

His aides, meanwhile, worked to make way for Obama to attend a still unscheduled memorial service for those slain at the nation's largest military post. The White House's top spokesman said Obama would attend that service and emphasized it would take place at the family's convenience, and that it will not be dictated by the president's schedule.

"When a service is scheduled, the president will attend," Robert Gibbs told reporters during his daily briefing.

Yet Obama is also scheduled to leave on a 10-day trip to Asia on Wednesday. Gibbs would not rule out delaying the trip so Obama could attend the service before setting off on the major international trip of the year.

Gibbs said the president's schedule remains in flux.

Obama ordered the flags at the White House and other federal buildings to be at half-staff until Veterans Day. He called it a modest tribute to those who were slain and to those who put their lives on the line in the armed services each day.

"We stand in awe of their sacrifice, and we pray for the safety of those who fight, and for the families of those who have fallen," he said.

The president promised that that his administration would update the nation as it learns more about what happened, and why, at Fort Hood.

The suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, was shot and remains hospitalized.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Funny, did he follow his own advice with his comments on Professor Gates, or did he immediately leap to a wrong conclusion without the facts and make a biased statement?

TR

[kimberly]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Funny, did he follow his own advice with his comments on Professor Gates, or did he immediately leap to a wrong conclusion without the facts and make a biased statement?

TR

Obama seems incapable of having steadfast beliefs and morals.

Remember he attended the Trinity United Church of Christ for 20 years under the leadership of Jeremiah Wright only to denounce the church and teachings AFTER the public was outraged during the presidential campaigns last year.

He jumped to conclusions with the Gates fiasco likely because the black community would expect him to. So many think of him as THEIR president and expect him to take their side. (No, I'm not racist. I was married to a black man and my daughter is half black.).

Mr. Hollywood went into office having absolutely no idea of what he was going to do for the next 4 years and proceeded to ask the public what he should do. Transparent? I think it's more that he needs to be lead. He's no leader.

And the list goes on, and on, and on... .

Now, he is asking the Americans to not jump to conclusions when a muslim shouts out 'Allahu Akbar' immediately prior to shooting a room full of our soldiers. Must be he is worried what the Muslim world will think of him if we were all to "jump to conclusions".

He makes me sick.

[Fiercely Loyal]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

They weren't always.

Weapons used to be stored in the barracks in racks.

TR

Sir,
What are your opinions on being able to carry on post?

This incident to me reminds me of VA tech and other such places were shootings have occurred because of sitting duck syndrome.

Would you like the ability for soldiers to carry on post?
Do you think it would be right for a soldier to carry in uniform?

Our posts in Alaska have a more restrictive policy for active duty soldiers restricting them from any type of concealed carry even if they live off post.

As a national guard soldier this doesn't affect me but I believe a CCW permit holder could've possibly ended this faster than waiting on first responders.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the fallen and injured.

[The Reaper]

I think there should be a national carry, with very few limitations, and a Federal carry permit, much as retired LE has national priviliges, that would be good on installations as well.

These permits would require significant training on the legal issues of lethal force as well as a performance based demonstration of the applicant's capabilties to make judgements and engage threats in real time.

Is this going to happen with the Dims, or even the Repubs in office with our current mainstream media? No.

So you are left with a moral (and legal) dilemma.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

[LarryW]

I haven't been able to manage the events at Ft Hood in my puny head. Can't even write it off as just another whacko. There's something deeper in the meaning of it that is beyond my reach right now. I'm too pissed, scared, confused, and shocked. There's nothing else left.

God, please grant to the souls of the victims repose and solace, and grant Your comfort to the friends and relatives of our fallen brothers and sisters.

I think there should be a national carry, with very few limitations, and a Federal carry permit, much as retired LE has national priviliges, that would be good on installations as well.

These permits would require significant training on the legal issues of lethal force as well as a performance based demonstration of the applicant's capabilties to make judgements and engage threats in real time.

Is this going to happen with the Dims, or even the Repubs in office with our current mainstream media? No.

Concur.