10-02-2009, 17:48
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Both their speeches were about themselves. Me, Myself and I. When will they learn it's not about them. I heard a Congressman on the News say it was Bushes fault. Obama has not had enough time yet to make the World like the USA again.
Another tidbit on crime in Rio. There are actually sections of the City that are no go areas for the Police. Because they are so out Gunned. Thus the Airborne strafing runs.
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10-02-2009, 18:05
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We'll see
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I highly doubt it. Crime in Rio is thru the roof.
I am of the opinion that the whole thing was decided in advance. Otherwise why would Rio build all that stadium for such a party. No other city did such a thing?
MY congratulations was because no other city in SA has been able to host the Summer Olympics.
CNN made mention of the fact that there was a comment about walling off a part of Rio from the Olympics visitors. Interesting concept. Dunno how that will stop the crime. 
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On another note, security. Much easier for Al-Qaeda to use the O games in SA to target "Heads of State". Who bets few "heads" will show?
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10-02-2009, 18:08
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In 1970 Denver was awarded the 76 Games after a bid by business owners and politicians. By '72 a grass roots movement of voters looked at the estimated costs, which had ballooned from $14 million to $152 million) and what the damage to the land would be and rebelled.
The result was for the only time in Olympic history, a city rejected the games it had been awarded.

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10-02-2009, 18:40
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Today
One would spend $152 Million, for a 45 seconds of TV commercial time.
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10-02-2009, 20:15
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Another tidbit on crime in Rio. There are actually sections of the City that are no go areas for the Police. Because they are so out Gunned. Thus the Airborne strafing runs.
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Hey, if the CPD could get away with it, there are more than a couple neighborhoods in Chi-town that could use a Hind-D.
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10-02-2009, 20:16
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Having been to Rio. There is no other way to describe Rio other then a Virtual Reality Porn Shop. I never saw more Porn and Prostitution all in one place. The main strip was entertaining with countless Bars, Restaurants and Street Performers.
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Wait. WUT? I gotta pack a bag . . .
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10-02-2009, 20:52
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On another note, security. Much easier for Al-Qaeda to use the O games in SA to target "Heads of State". Who bets few "heads" will show?
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Ala Munich?
Considering a radio interview I listened to on WTOP in DC about how the CA/SA drug guys are hanging out in W Africa and so are the terrorist guys and they all visit the same brothels, hotels and restaurants. That is not such a far fetched scenario. One that crossed my mind when I first heard that Rio was in the running. OTOH, who would try to kill hizzoner Hugo C.? Isn't he ten feet tall and bullet proof?
If Chicago had gotten the bid, I am certian that the entire nation of taxpayers would have footed the bill. At the moment, I am clean out of handouts for the government's latest whimsy. Quite honestly, IF, I have to give handouts and have my choice. Raise the pay of our soldiers and sailors. They make little enough as it is.
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10-02-2009, 23:08
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10-4!
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Both their speeches were about themselves. Me, Myself and I. When will they learn it's not about THEM.
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10-03-2009, 13:43
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Live better, work union?
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I have absolutely no doubt that kind of situation, not isolated, played a part. I've worked at trade shows before, I was amazed. The reputation had to precede "us". Hell if you're in the city you cannot plug in a light without an electrician filing a grievance. If you confront them, (mind you I'm speaking generally...there are some decent folks) then you get the slow-mo workers. It is unbelievable.
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IMO, the attachment illustrates of Gypsy's point.
The photo is from the set up for the 2003 NCTA National Show in Chicago. The display being built was a joint venture between HD Net and the NCTA itself. The purpose of the display was to trumpet the cable industry's ability to deliver HD feeds to customers.
The NCTA reached out to many of its members to contribute materials to the booth. The NCTA took a 'spare no expense' approach to the design and construction of the booth (a preliminary invoice was a tad over $100,000 and this did not include the costs to run the booth or to tear it down.) It was understood by all that this was important.
Well, not exactly everyone. The photo, taken for another purpose, shows the typical work pattern of the union folks at McCormick Place (Chicago's convention center). - Work for five, talk for ten. (This pattern seemed synchronized. The Borg wish they had a network like this.)
- If one person could do the job, no reason not to send two.
- If two could do the job, three could do it better.
- Take five minutes to get ready for a fifteen minute break.
- Take thirty minutes to get ready for the end of the shift.
These work patterns and the culture they reflect make for interesting reading in a research library. When one observes them during the "here and now," it becomes a question of how much Advil and Imodium can one take safely in one day.
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10-03-2009, 14:47
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IMO, the attachment illustrates of Gypsy's point.
The photo is from the set up for the 2003 NCTA National Show in Chicago. The display being built was a joint venture between HD Net and the NCTA itself. The purpose of the display was to trumpet the cable industry's ability to deliver HD feeds to customers.
The NCTA reached out to many of its members to contribute materials to the booth. The NCTA took a 'spare no expense' approach to the design and construction of the booth (a preliminary invoice was a tad over $100,000 and this did not include the costs to run the booth or to tear it down.) It was understood by all that this was important.
Well, not exactly everyone. The photo, taken for another purpose, shows the typical work pattern of the union folks at McCormick Place (Chicago's convention center). - Work for five, talk for ten. (This pattern seemed synchronized. The Borg wish they had a network like this.)
- If one person could do the job, no reason not to send two.
- If two could do the job, three could do it better.
- Take five minutes to get ready for a fifteen minute break.
- Take thirty minutes to get ready for the end of the shift.
These work patterns and the culture they reflect make for interesting reading in a research library. When one observes them during the "here and now," it becomes a question of how much Advil and Imodium can one take safely in one day.
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Looks a bunch of Amtrak Employees. Amtrak is the perfect example of why the Government should not have their hand in any part of the private sector. I swear I'm thinking of writing a Book about it.
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10-03-2009, 14:57
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You haven't seen sloth until you've seen the USPS in action (or, more like in-action) - astounding.
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10-03-2009, 15:08
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...the Government should not have their hand in any part of the private sector. I swear I'm thinking of writing a Book about it.
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10-03-2009, 15:37
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Blame It on Bush
It was President Bush's fault.
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Chicago torpedoed by anti-U.S. sentiment?
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October 3, 2009
BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter apallasch@suntimes.com
Some Chicago officials say anti-American resentment likely played a role in Chicago's Olympic bid dying in the first round Friday.
President Obama could not undo in one year the resentment against America that President Bush and others built up for years, they said.
"There must be" resentment against America, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said, near the stage where he had hoped to give a victory speech in Daley Center Plaza. "The way we [refused to sign] the Kyoto Treaty, we misled the world into Iraq. The world had a very bad taste in its mouth about us. But there was such a turnaround after last November. The world now feels better about America and about Americans. That's why I thought the president's going was the deal-maker."
State Rep. Susana Mendoza (D-Chicago) said she saw firsthand the resentment against America five years ago when she was in Rio de Janeiro. "I feel in my gut that this vote today was political and mean-spirited," she said.
"I travel a lot. ... I thought we had really turned a corner with the election of President Obama. People are so much more welcoming of Americans now. But this isn't the people of those countries. This is the leaders still living with outdated impressions of Americans."
U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) said she was approached by a consul general at the plaza as they waited for word Friday. "He said ... he was hearing that there wasn't enough time for Barack Obama to dispel the old image. ... But I don't know if that's it."
Presidential press secretary Robert Gibbs rejected the notion that the vote was influenced by the United States' standing: "No, I think you saw both at the U.N. General Assembly, you saw at the G20 last week ... I think virtually every measure of our standing in the world is different than it was just this time last year. So I don't read too much of that into this."
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10-03-2009, 15:49
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It was President Bush's fault. 
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I love the way the critics of Bush the Younger constantly rely on the chimera of world public opinion.
In regards to Reverend Jackson's scurrilous accusation that "we misled the world into Iraq," I disagree. If anyone misled the world into Iraq, it was Saddam Hussein.
For some reason, the president neglected to congratulate Brazil on landing the games in his weekly address. Source is here. Yet, in urging the congress to move forward on health reform, he said:
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Instead, I expect us to move forward with a spirit of civility, a seriousness of purpose, and a willingness to compromise that characterizes our democratic process at its very best.
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Well, how about leading by example with a rhetorical handshake and a "We'll get 'em next time"? After all, the decision was reached through a vote.
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10-03-2009, 16:57
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
the typical work pattern of the union folks at McCormick Place (Chicago's convention center). - Work for five, talk for ten. (This pattern seemed synchronized. The Borg wish they had a network like this.)
- If one person could do the job, no reason not to send two.
- If two could do the job, three could do it better.
- Take five minutes to get ready for a fifteen minute break.
- Take thirty minutes to get ready for the end of the shift.
These work patterns and the culture they reflect make for interesting reading in a research library. When one observes them during the "here and now," it becomes a question of how much Advil and Imodium can one take safely in one day.
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This work philosophy cracked me up. In another life, I had a retail business and the city of San Diego-maintained-sidewalk had a lip on it that old folks kept tripping on. I called the city to come out and fix the problem. 3 months later a guy in a city truck pulls up and eats lunch...for two hours... then he gets out, places a traffic cone on top of the lip and enjoys the rest of his super big gulp while listening to the radio for another half hour before driving off (presumably to write up a report on action taken).
The next day the cone was gone. It doesn't matter if its city, state, or federal there is just a different work ethic when pay is not performance based. Hijack of thread over.
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