When does HIllary bail???

[jw74]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

IMO she will never be picked by the democrats to make another pres bid.
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I agree. the Dims have shown a propensity for shelving people who strike out. that's why I think Kerry has been muzzled. His ego is just as big as any of them. She will try in 2016 (mayan calendar not withstanding) but she will do so for cash and attention. Her days are done as a viable candidate.

[afchic]

Originally Posted by Defender968

You really think so? I guess I'm of the opinion that if it was put out before the election it would never be allowed afterwards even if it said he was from Mars, if it proved he wasn't a citizen it would destroy the DNC, as they would then be charged with the cover up, the SCOTUS would be implicated and all their credibility would be gone as they cleared him to be POTUS, all the decisions he made for 4 years would be null and void, the mayhem would be too much, it would destroy DC, as they would have shredded the Constitution knowingly and deceived all American citizens in the process.

Now if it said something like his dad wasn't from Kenya but was instead a well known American Communist/Marxist, then I'd be more likely to agree with you as it would just bring the one down for lying about his entire history, the DNC would take a beating but would shrug and say we didn’t know. I guess in the end it depends on what it actually says.

Do you honestly think Hillary cares about that??? If the her means justify her ends of being the first female POTUS, I don't think she cares what kind of devastation she leaves in her wake.

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Originally Posted by jw74

I agree. the Dims have shown a propensity for shelving people who strike out. that's why I think Kerry has been muzzled. His ego is just as big as any of them. She will try in 2016 (mayan calendar not withstanding) but she will do so for cash and attention. Her days are done as a viable candidate.

By 2016, Mrs. Clinton will be loooooong past her prime. Her shot must taken by 2012, IMHO. She also must exit Sec Of State office on her terms; then mop the floor with Obama. I see this as a time table driven event more than an issue motivated event. Mid cycle looks to be her target.

My $.02.

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[akv]

Originally Posted by afchic

Do you honestly think Hillary cares about that??? If the her means justify her ends of being the first female POTUS, I don't think she cares what kind of devastation she leaves in her wake.

I think Michelle Obama has a better chance of being the first female POTUS than Hillary, think about it her situation is quite similar to Hillary's in the 90's, and she has the following similar lack of qualifications.

1) She is an exceedingly liberal Ivy League educated lawyer who until recently wasn't proud of America.

2) The media adores her, She's no Jackie-O but much more popular than Hillary ever was, unlike her husband she can speak without notes or tele-prompter.

3) She can ride her charismatic husbands's coat tails. If you think any criticism of Obama now comes with an automatic "racist" accusation, it gets even worse with Michelle since you would be a " sexist racist".

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Originally Posted by akv

I think Michelle Obama has a better chance of being the first female POTUS than Hillary, think about it her situation is quite similar to Hillary's in the 90's, and she has the following similar lack of qualifications.

1) She is an exceedingly liberal Ivy League educated lawyer who until recently wasn't proud of America.

2) The media adores her, She's no Jackie-O but much more popular than Hillary ever was, unlike her husband she can speak without notes or tele-prompter.

3) She can ride her charismatic husbands's coat tails. If you think any criticism of Obama now comes with an automatic "racist" accusation, it gets even worse with Michelle since you would be a " sexist racist".

For that to work, zero needs to do the full ride of two terms. If zero continues to bask in the media like a rock star, among other things, I just don't see it happening.

On another thought, Would Mrs. Clinton have been a more viable presidential contender if she walked away from slick willy over Monica gate?



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[akv]

Originally Posted by Red Flag 1

For that to work, zero needs to do the full ride of two terms. If zero continues to bask in the media like a rock star, among other things, I just don't see it happening.

On another thought, Would Mrs. Clinton have been a more viable presidential contender if she walked away from slick willy over Monica gate?

Yes, two terms, unless the Republicans can find someone in 2012 or there is a scandal. I think Monica Gate MADE Hillary. Until then she was just the bitchy wife, but Bill's dalliances and her staying with him seemed to foster a lot of empathy if not sympathy for her as the loyal wife.

I was at a charity event hosted by Elliot Spitzer's wife a few years back, ( in my brief interaction with her she seemed like a decent lady). She opened the event with, " Well I have had an interesting Spring, thank you all for coming" She got a standing ovation and raised a lot of money that night.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by abc_123

That had me wondering for a while ... but.... how better to torpedo a rival than to accept a position and then for reasons of ... (principle..moral compas. whatever..) bail once the ship starts sinking. I feel like a dumbass for seeing this this late in the game... it is her BEST chance for the democratic ticket next election.. Help torpedo 'O" and look principled doing it.

YMMV.

Interesting, I can see that actually.

[abc_123]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Interesting, I can see that actually.

I don't know. But I think that she and the rest of the rats will need to leave the good ship "O" before it finishes its 4 year journey. ..

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by abc_123

I don't know. But I think that she and the rest of the rats will need to leave the good ship "O" before it finishes its 4 year journey. ..

Harry Reid will not be given a chance to leave the Good Ship "O"...... he's currently prepping for a Wendy's Manager Trainee position in Reno.

[Richard]

WWBD?*

Richard's $.02

*What Would Bill Do?

[Blitzzz (RIP)]

"it is her BEST chance for the democratic ticket next election.. Help torpedo 'O" and look principled doing it."

...Principle..Hillary who?.

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Harry Reid will not be given a chance to leave the Good Ship "O"...... he's currently prepping for a Wendy's Manager Trainee position in Reno.

Not so sure Dave would approve.

Long John Silver's might work better.....he smells fishy enough already.

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Originally Posted by Gypsy

I still cannot fathom why she accepted this appointment from him. She must be...fuming.

I'll say the mid-terms as well.

It will happen before the mid-term elections. The public will want an answer about healthcare, which will never come. The war and another 40,000 troops.

"O" will fail for the same reasons Hitler failed. He never allowed his generals to run their war departments, his need for absolute control, mirco management and agenda.

"Let me'z tink, aztack the English, or zi containz the russianz?, What to do, what to do? Iz got it, Iz will do both!"

Hillary wants the Oval Office, she feels entitled. She will leave to begin her campaign.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by akv

Until then she was just the bitchy wife, but Bill's dalliances and her staying with him seemed to foster a lot of empathy if not sympathy for her as the loyal wife.

Really, sympathy? Not me...I must be far too cynical because I immediately wondered what she was promised to stay with him.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Really, sympathy? Not me...I must be far too cynical because I immediately wondered what she was promised to stay with him.

That's simple......


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