September 8, 2009

[Warrior-Mentor]

We're good for now...ramadan won't be over by then...

[dac]

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

Don't have at-home internet access.

How do you survive?


I think it will go more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQT830mo8Mc

Every word he says is going to be picked apart by both sides. If he goes into anything overtly political with children this age it will be career suicide. I'm just glad my kids are not old enough yet to participate... this time.

[Richard]

I'm just glad my kids are not old enough yet to participate... this time.

I would think you would welcome the opportunity to engage in this discussion with your children.

The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens.

But that's me - and YMMV.

Richard's $.02

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Richard

I would think you would welcome the opportunity to engage in this discussion with your children.

The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens.[/I]

But that's me - and YMMV.

Richard's $.02

Richard Sir,

Am always inclined to follow the lead of the QP, when attempting to understand complex situations, and complex theories.

So in this situation, the conflict arrises when the Source of the "Challenge" is a man like Barrack Hussien Obama...

Am at a loss here, but am trying to understand, and appologize in advance if this seems like a stupid question.

Holly

[SF-TX]

Some of the classroom activities suggested by the Department of Education to coincide with the speech:

Menu of Classroom Activities President Obama’s Address to Students Across America (PreK‐6)

Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.This has been edited since the first time I downloaded the document and now reads: Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals.


Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf

[SF-TX]

"I pledge to be a servant of our president." - 3:54 into the embedded video.

Parents upset over 'leftist propaganda' video
Education » Principal apologizes for showing 'I Pledge' to students.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_132491...uestid=5883011

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Richard

I would think you would welcome the opportunity to engage in this discussion with your children.

The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens.

But that's me - and YMMV.

Richard's $.02

Under most circumstances I would agree. But like my parents told me, choose your friends wisely because people will judge you by the friends you keep.

And in Obama's case your dealing with a person who has no issue hanging out with and taking advice from the likes of Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, John Holdren, Mark Lloyd and Jeff Jones....just to name a few!

That is a well rounded lot of Anti-Americans.......those are the type of 'Friends' you tell your kids to stay far, far away from and you tell them to stay away from anyone that associates with them.

So what is President Zero going to communicate to my Kids? If his smoke and mirrors campaign promises are any indication, I should expect this little event to be nothing close to what is stated on the Menu of Classroom Activities (which says absolutely nothing about what Zero is going to focus on).

The man is at very least a LIAR and a MANIPULATOR. The only difference between Obama and a Drug Dealer is what he is Peddling.


It is a good day to take your kids to the Dentist or something.

[incarcerated]

[Richard]

"I pledge to be a servant of our president." - 3:54 into the embedded video.

Here are the facts about the "I Pledge" video - if anyone is interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcPA...layer_embedded

We never showed a video/movie without having previewed it and agreeing to the appropriateness of its use to the subject of discussion.

However - IMO - this video is an appropriate video to be used for a high school level speech, government, or film course to engage in an age appropriate discussion of point of view, the influence of Hollywood or Madison Avenue on our culture, the use of subliminal and overt messaging in advertising, etc.

So what is President Zero going to communicate to my Kids?

Ref posts #3 and #18, and http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html

Maybe the Secretary of Education should have written his letter to school Principals telling them what the POTUS was going to focus on in Klingan so Americans could understand what he is planning to communicate to the students.

FWIW - here in North Texas school districts are leaving it up to the individual school principals and classroom teachers themselves to choose whether or not they want to engage in the POTUS' message to the students on 8 Sep 09.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

[Pete]

Let's see....

The NEA and it's states organizations are loyal foot soldiers of the left.

The left calls and they march and protest.

The Prez wants to talk to all the little kiddies and the classroom teacher was to guide the talk and papers into "how we can help the president".

Of course that first idea has now been changed to shared responsibility.

Yeah, when the rat gets it's tail caught in the trap it starts to sign another tune.

Just here waiting for the "racist" charge to be slung at anybody who opts their kid out for the day.

[JJ_BPK]

Interesting,, The WH is back-tracking before it starts..

White House Withdraws Call for Students to 'Help' Obama.. President Obama's plan to inspire the nation's schoolchildren with a video address next week erupted into controversy Wednesday, forcing the White House to pull out its eraser and rewrite a government recommendation that teachers nationwide assign students a paper on how to "help the president," the Washington Times reported.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...est=latestnews

I wonder how much of the youtube pledge video was being used in the POTUS classroom segment??

Here are the facts about the "I Pledge" video - if anyone is interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcPA...layer_embedded

"I pledge to be a servant of our president." - 3:54 into the embedded video.

I think our POTUS should interact with the children of this nation,, But I am also leery of the left using subliminal and back-handed innuendo to alter what I think is a basic parents job. Do all parents do well,, NO,, look at the rising crime.. That does not mean the responsibility should be usurped,, and by a dicidely Left leaning education system,, Richard and a small minority excluded..

[abc_123]

Originally Posted by Richard

Here are the facts about the "I Pledge" video - if anyone is interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcPA...layer_embedded

We never showed a video/movie without having previewed it and agreeing to the appropriateness of its use to the subject of discussion.

However - IMO - this video is an appropriate video to be used for a high school level speech, government, or film course to engage in an age appropriate discussion of point of view, the influence of Hollywood or Madison Avenue on our culture, the use of subliminal and overt messaging in advertising, etc.

You're laying out a pretty specific set of circumstances...and also requires that the teacher moderating the discussion is not a Obamaton.

I really don't want this propaganda opportunity anywere near my grade school aged kids. Just doesn't feel right to me.

[Paslode]

I can just imagine.....


Hi Kids! I am President Barack Obama (he flashes his big smile) and I am speaking to you today about education and how you can help me through education. Now I know you've probably heard a lot of stories about me and some of your parents don't like me (flashes smile), but let me make it clear to you that my Administration and myself are trying to make a better world for you.

And through education (brainwashing) we can make that happen, which is why I am speaking to you today. It is important that you study and learn so that you can help me and your country become a better place.

He touches (plants the seeds) on Green Energy and Health Care. Then he asks them to discuss what they learn with friends, family and neighbors (Community Activist).

And then he mentions they can become part of a new club in school called 'Civics Corps' which they can join and get a cool Red Jacket!

You are the future of this nation and together we can change it.




I don't trust his motivation and intentions.

[Speedgod]

Originally Posted by abc_123

You're laying out a pretty specific set of circumstances...and also requires that the teacher moderating the discussion is not a Obamaton.

I really don't want this propaganda opportunity anywere near my grade school aged kids. Just doesn't feel right to me.

I agree.

My kids will not be anywhere near that speech that day.

[Team Sergeant]

Fact is the Federal government has zero authority to do what they did and now the white house knows it.

"Christina Erland Culver, former deputy assistant secretary for education, said presidents have traditionally addressed classrooms on the first day of school, but the problem with the event was the accompanying materials from the Department of Education.

"That's where they kind of got into a slippery spot. Federal statute denies any authority to the Department of Education to provide any kind of curriculum or anything that can be passed down to the state, and that's part of the statute forming the Department of Education. So they kinda got themselves into this mess because they didn't really understand some of the key legal roles or the dos and don'ts at the federal Department of Ed," she said."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...est=latestnews


Not only is it inappropriate IMO, but it's against the law. But I guess they know that now.....

Please tell me how "I pledge to be a servant of our president" in any context is "appropriate"? If I recall correctly senators, congressmen and presidents work for the "people" not the other way around. Now in socialist/dictatorships the people do "serve" their leader.....

"White House Withdraws Call for Students to 'Help' Obama"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...est=latestnews


I wonder if obama will appoint a "Foot in Mouth" Czar to make excuses for "Zero" everytime he makes an asinine comment or statement.

I'm sure glad there's a few real media outlets such as Foxnews & Washington Times that take a stand on these issues and report them.

I think I'll go and clean my guns and later purchase some more ammo at the non-union Wal-Mart.

TS