Poltroons Unite, Boycott Arizona!!

[ZonieDiver]

Originally Posted by Richard

Isn't an issue for us living here in Texas - no Texan worth his salt wants to go there anyways.

I guess them "Texicans" led by Gen. Sibley during "The Late Unpleasantness" who tried to separate AZ-NM from the forces of Federal Repression and in doing so established the "Confederate Territory of Arizona" weren't "worth their salt - including the the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 7th Texas Mounted Rifles Regiments!

[Richard]

Ol' Sibley campaigned in Eastern Confederate Arizona (which is the southern half of New Mexico) from Fort Bliss north to Albuquerque and Glorieta - even he was too clever to be suckered into visiting what is now Arizona .

Richard's $.02

[ZonieDiver]

Originally Posted by Richard

Ol' Sibley campaigned in Eastern Confederate Arizona (which is the southern half of New Mexico) from Fort Bliss north to Albuquerque and Glorieta - even he was too clever to be suckered into visiting what is now Arizona .

Richard's $.02

(Not going to 'get into it' with Richard, cuz I'd end up being the 'one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest'!)

Back to the original thread... Frommer should concentrate more on his core business. His "books" are usually badly out of date. He had my friend's dive business in the Bahamas listed for two years AFTER my friend had died and his wife had closed the business. Frommer's recommendations often seem like more of a "tout" to me!

[ZonieDiver]

Originally Posted by Richard

Ol' Sibley campaigned in Eastern Confederate Arizona (which is the southern half of New Mexico) from Fort Bliss north to Albuquerque and Glorieta - even he was too clever to be suckered into visiting what is now Arizona .

Oh, hell! I can't resist.

But, Sibley did send some "troops" into what is now "The People's Republic of Tucson" to scout out the column of Union troops coming from what is now the "Bankrupt People's Republic of Kalifornia"! They "clashed" at the famous Battle of Picacho Pass, which we gun-loving rednecks in Arizona proudly proclaim as the "Westernmost Batte of the Civil War"! (However, at the time, there were bar fights in more western places with greater casualty counts.)

[Richard]

...including the the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 7th Texas Mounted Rifles...

FWIW - 4th, 5th and 7th were Regiments of Texas Mounted Volunteers - 2nd was the only Regiment of Texas Mounted Rifles you listed.

But, Sibley did send some "troops" into what is now "The People's Republic of Tucson" to scout out the column of Union troops coming from what is now the "Bankrupt People's Republic of Kalifornia"! They "clashed" at the famous Battle of Picacho Pass,

Yep - he sent Company A, Baylor’s Regiment of Arizona Rangers commanded by Captain Sherod Hunter. Despite being labeled as such by nearly every historian who has written of the Confederate campaign in Arizona, the men of Hunter's command were not Texans, but rather residents of the Confederate Territory of Arizona. The erroneous identification of Hunter's men as "Texans" may stem from the fact that the company was attached to the Second Texas Mounted Rifles. However, they were never an organic part of that regiment, and in Confederate records are always listed as "Independent Arizona Volunteers, attached to the Second Texas Cavalry."

Boyd Finch, a historian who is probably the single most knowledgeable expert on the history of Sherod Hunter and his command, offers another explanation...Unionist propaganda. Among the native Mexican population of the United States Territory of New Mexico there was a deep suspicion and distrust of Texans, going back many years. Wishing to rally these people to the Union cause, the Unionist authorities, especially Governor Henry Connelly, sought to capitalize on this distrust by labeling all Confederates as "Texans."

Here's an ironic bit of Arizona history - it was on the fiftieth anniversary of the creation of the Confederate Territory of Arizona (14 Feb 1862) that the State of Arizona was formally admitted into the Union (14 Feb 1912).

And so it...went...and still goes...

Richard's $.02