07-23-2009, 06:53
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"This brief statement is being submitted on behalf of my client"
"This brief statement is being submitted on behalf of my client......"
Two views of the same situation that do not match. One that he was as nice as pie and the other that he was shouting.
One view in the arrest report and one view from Gates' lawyer.
Seems simple to me. The press knows who made the 911 call and they know she was standing in front of Gates' house. I would think a good reporter would interview her, get the names from her of who else was a witness in the front yard and interview them.
Would be really funny if half said he was nice as pie and the other half said he was shouting.
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07-23-2009, 07:07
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Obama called Gates a friend, and said he doesn't know all the facts of the case. Nonetheless, Obama said, anyone would have been angry if treated the way Gates claims police in Cambridge, Mass., treated him.
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Damn the facts, full speed ahead!
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07-23-2009, 07:51
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Actually - it seems to me as if the media are the ones attempting to keep this pot boiling
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In a lot of these similar cases, I give the MSM about as much credibility as the newspapers on display at the check out counters of the local supermarkets.
It seems that responsible and investigative reporting by the MSM has fallen by the wayside. The absolute paramount of importance is ratings not facts.
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07-23-2009, 11:45
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The absolute paramount of importance is ratings not facts.
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Who else involved in this could that apply to? I wonder. 
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07-23-2009, 14:08
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You know this is just another example of a day in the life of an LEO, the only difference here is the ass hat he was dealing with happened to be a muckity muck at Harvard. Mr. Gates talked himself into cuffs, it happens all the time and personally I wish the PD wouldn't have dropped the charges, it makes them look weak, and will just embolden idiots like him not to mention the fact that Mr. Gates violated the law. I have no doubt that the police report is accurate because I've been on that same call dozens of times. The racist in this situation is Mr. Gates, not the officer as the liberal rag media are spinning it. Mr. Gates needs to pull his head out of his rear and come to grips with his own racism.
Personally I think the fact that he gave a Harvard ID shows how pompous this moron really is, if I were the officer getting yelled at by this idiot I'd probably have insisted on a state or federally issued type of identification not a college ID just out of spite, and if he continued on as he did I'd have arrested him too, disorderly conduct is a referred to a POP law, (pissing of police) don't piss off the police and you probably won't get arrested.
Further for the POTUS to comment on this is completely absurd, especially siding with the racist idiot, then again like minds and all. Clearly being a lawyer didn't give the POTUS an understanding of the application of the law or maybe he would think differently, then again maybe all he can see clearly is the color of people’s skin.
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07-23-2009, 14:11
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Between Obama and Biden, I thought the POTUS was the smart one. Apparently not.
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07-23-2009, 14:25
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The White House is in full damage control mode now. According to Press Secretary Bill Gibbs the President wasn't calling Sgt Crowley stupid but rather he was making a point that the situation had "gotten out of hand". I think the President's lack of experience is showing. That is a bush league mistake one would expect from a first term Senator not the President of the United States.
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07-23-2009, 14:27
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Then again...
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Originally Posted by Defender968
You know this is just another example of a day in the life of an LEO, the only difference here is the ass hat he was dealing with happened to be a muckity muck at Harvard. Mr. Gates talked himself into cuffs, it happens all the time and personally I wish the PD wouldn't have dropped the charges, it makes them look weak, and will just embolden idiots like him not to mention the fact that Mr. Gates violated the law. I have no doubt that the police report is accurate because I've been on that same call dozens of times. The racist in this situation is Mr. Gates, not the officer as the liberal rag media are spinning it. Mr. Gates needs to pull his head out of his rear and come to grips with his own racism.
Personally I think the fact that he gave a Harvard ID shows how pompous this moron really is, if I were the officer getting yelled at by this idiot I'd probably have insisted on a state or federally issued type of identification not a college ID just out of spite, and if he continued on as he did I'd have arrested him too, disorderly conduct is a referred to a POP law, (pissing of police) don't piss off the police and you probably won't get arrested.
Further for the POTUS to comment on this is completely absurd, especially siding with the racist idiot, then again like minds and all. Clearly being a lawyer didn't give the POTUS an understanding of the application of the law or maybe he would think differently, then again maybe all he can see clearly is the color of people’s skin.
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As I read the post above, I couldn't help but to remember the statement offered below.
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Unless you were there you don't know what happened....
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07-23-2009, 08:02
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This whole situation sounds as if it should have been resolved quite easily and quickly - but wasn't for whatever reasons - and is now beginning to seem as if it would serve as a good script outline for a sequal to the movie Falling Down (Michael Douglas, Robert Duvall).
As for the POTUS - I would think a wise attorney would have just responded with a comment about not having been there but trusting that our legal system would resolve the matter to the benefit of all concerned.
Richard's $.02
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