U.S. Army Officer Calls Obama an "Impostor"

Richard · 03-01-2009, 15:30

Well...in the it was a good career while it lasted category...

Richard's $.02

U.S. Army Officer Calls Obama an "Impostor"
Lieutenant says he won't comply until Obama proves his birthplace

A United States soldier on active duty in Iraq called President Barack Obama an "impostor" Monday, saying he would not comply with the president's military commands until he saw irrefutable evidence Obama was born on American soil.

"As an active-duty Officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the Office of President of the United States," Lt. Scott Easterling wrote in a letter to attorney Orly Taitz.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/us_wo...-Impostor.html

SF_BHT · 03-01-2009, 15:37

There goes any hope for a career and he could be thrown in the detention facolity for this waiting charges/trial. I think he is also being used by this group also from what the article said. His SA is lacking. You have to pick you battles and pick ones you have a chance to win.

Dozer523 · 03-01-2009, 15:53

Is this the same loser who went public with how Candidate Obama dis-ed the troops at Bagram? Then when it hit the blogosphere he statred to remember it differently? Note: This is what happens when you dive into the shallow end of the gene pool head first.

**Roguish Lawyer** · 03-01-2009, 17:25

Hey, sounds like a conscientious objector to me -- I thought Obama liked those guys . . .

Paslode · 03-01-2009, 17:46

Whether I agree or disagree, "if" he truly believes Obama fails too meet the criteria I admire his conviction....but this stunt is going to work out about as well as me refusing to pay taxes because I don't agree. There is also the possibility that he could be using as an excuse to get out of the sandbox.

Regardless of his motivation he is now a liability to those around him which I would think is not a good thing with lives on the line.....and rumor has it that his example has prompted another fellow to suite.

I see Ft. Leavenworth as these mens future home.

uboat509 · 03-01-2009, 18:23

Pure jackassery. What could this guy have been thinking? Did he really believe that this could, in any way work out for him? It boggles the mind.

SFC W

Defender968 · 03-01-2009, 18:49

You know I give this Lt a full measure for being willing to sacrifice his career, and likely his freedom for what he believes, but I do definitely question his motivation and his strategy. I don't think this will go the way the Lt wants it to, and I also don't think it's going to end well for him at all. Looking at what he did/said, and where he did it, I don't think he or his lawyer thought this through more than one step.

If he was really seeking to force the POTUS to release his birth cert then he should have been looking to get charged with something that would give him standing to do so, (I mean how many lawsuits have been dismissed for lack of standing already?) had he refused some sort of order that originated with the POTUS I think he might have had a case where he would have standing, (any JAG's reading please correct me if I'm wrong) He'd be charged with Article 92 Failure to obey order or regulation, and he could have challenged the order by challenging the POTUS’s authority to give an order by challenging his citizenship and thus eligibility to be the POTUS, then he could have filed suit for the POTUS’s birth cert and maybe just maybe had a very slight chance of getting it, (I personally don't think there is a chance in hell it would have worked but at least he might have had a slight chance from a legal standpoint), as it stands I would bet they're going to charge him with Article 88 Contempt toward officials, and when he tries to use the defense that the POTUS isn't a citizen I think they'll say that isn't factually relevant and he won't have standing to try to force the POTUS to release his birth cert. Either way I think the Lt, his lawyer, and the group that lawyer represents on top of him are going to make this as public as possible.

You know it’s funny I told my wife this would happen, though I thought it would be some dirt bag just refusing to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, though from a PR standpoint doing it while in country will give him more credibility, if he was just refusing to go to war he’d be labeled a coward and wouldn’t have any credibility at all, not that he has all that much now.

Just my .02

03-01-2009, 19:28

Since when do LT's receive their orders directly from the CIC?

Paslode · 03-01-2009, 19:36

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Originally Posted by uboat509

What could this guy have been thinking?
SFC W

If he received the lame reponse letters I received my my 3 Representatives it probably left him still questioning if anyone truely knows. Now in my case I was assured by Congressman Dennis Moore and Senator Pat Roberts that everything was A-Ok because FactCheck.org looked into it. Senator Sam Brownback said in his response that he was sure because FactCheck.org checked into it and added that Justices Alito and Roberts spoke with Obama about it.

Me personally I was hoping to be reassured that there was a process he went through, his Party looked into and that organizations like the FBI and NSA did background checks prior to giving him the keys....I am pretty sure you military folks with security clearences were subjected to more intensive scrutiny than FactCheck.org...

That leaves many people scratching their heads in bewilderment.....FactCheck.org? What about someone that deals with National Security?

I still don't know what to think.....but the guy is still screwed.

Defender968 · 03-01-2009, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by WCH

Since when do LT's receive their orders directly from the CIC?

Obviously they don't get orders directly from the CINC, but a good lawyer might be able to argue something like a redeployment or deployment order stemmed from the CINC.

I don't think this is a winning strategy, I was just theorizing on a more legally sound route to achieve their obvious objective of getting the POTUS's birth cert.

alright4u · 03-01-2009, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by WCH

Since when do LT's receive their orders directly from the CIC?

His oath is Duty, Honor, Country- not CAREER.

Guy · 03-01-2009, 22:37

If I run into him...I'll definitely go/run in the other direction.

Don't need the attention...

Stay safe.

Detonics · 03-02-2009, 03:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangertab1

Perfectly stated, SFC W. He is an embarrassment to all Commissioned Officers.

Finish your contracted Oath of Office, take off the uniform, and then be a political hero.

I believe his reason for doing this is the possibility that he may have "standing" to make an argument in court. If he waits until he's in civilian status the courts have already found there is no "standing" to press this claim.

Personally, I applaud his personal convictions if this is being done for the reasons stated in press reports.

uboat509 · 03-02-2009, 03:49

Apparently this guy has signed on to a class action suit being circulated to military members. More on that here.

On another note I have to ask why? Let's say that it somehow works and Barrack Obama is forced to step down. That means Joe Biden becomes the President. How is that in any way better?

Richard · 03-02-2009, 08:13

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Originally Posted by uboat509

Let's say that it somehow works and Barrack Obama is forced to step down. That means Joe Biden becomes the President. How is that in any way better?

The current order is Joe "Huh?" Biden, Nancy "Ozone?" Pelosi, Robert "Old as dirt--literally!" Byrd, Hillary "OMG!" Clinton, Timothy "What taxes?" Geithner...

...and then Robert Gates. UB509 is correct and that's a pretty scary line of succession we've got to worry about under the current administration.

Richard's $.02