12-10-2008, 13:17
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MOO - it's a lot like a giant Venn diagram of overlapping circles of SpecOps capabilities; some mission requirements overlap among the various units more than others...and some remain entirely with a specified unit's requirements for their mission taskings.
Richard's $.02 
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12-10-2008, 13:50
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If I may, in my most humble opinion-
The most intriguing SF mission, the one I most enjoy reading about is Foreign Internal Defense and unconventional warfare. I know you guys can kick in doors. That’s a given. You can be a scalpel or a chainsaw whatever is needed.
The concept of helping a friendly government defeat an insurgency or perhaps fostering a new one is what I think would be the toughest mission.
In my business, you have a second or two to make a good impression. That good impression is the basis of being able to find common ground, build rapport which leads to trust and the close of the deal. When the initial contact for me goes south I lose a sale. In the business of SF when the initial contact goes south what happens then???
It is my humble opinion, that you would have to be part psychologist or at the very minimum an excellent sales person during this event. I have been to Robin Sage twice. Never got to see anything, I was too blinded by the all the flash bangs. I would love to see how SF trains for the initial meet and greet. I take a pencil to my meet and greets. The SF Operator takes weapons.
That's all. I hope I don't sound like a retard. But too me, that first contact takes huge cojones. I have folks too scared to go say hello to a customer on a car lot.
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12-10-2008, 14:15
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When the initial meeting goes south?
When the initial meeting goes south? So do you it's the big Echo time. We do our best for that not to happen. Blitzzz
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12-10-2008, 14:16
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I have recently opined that it seems to me that given our cultural competency requirements, that most of us would make pretty good salesmen for products that we believed in.
IMHO, rapport with the HN is not that much different from rapport with customers.
TR
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12-10-2008, 14:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
I have recently opined that it seems to me that given our cultural competency requirements, that most of us would make pretty good salesmen for products that we believed in.
IMHO, rapport with the HN is not that much different from rapport with customers.
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Sir, I have openings. I need two slots filled asap.
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12-10-2008, 14:24
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Quote:
I have recently opined that it seems to me that given our cultural competency requirements, that most of us would make pretty good salesmen for products that we believed in.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zuluzerosix
Sir, I have openings. I need two slots filled asap.
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12-10-2008, 14:26
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Roger that, sir.
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12-10-2008, 21:49
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Quote:
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It's a lot like a giant Venn diagram of overlapping circles of SpecOps capabilities
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Where pray tell would one find such a diagram if one was interested in such things.
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Sorry -- It's "Speak like the royal family" day at the office
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