Hillary Balkan Stories Disputed - Page 2

Sdiver · 03-24-2008, 21:25

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Originally Posted by 3SoldierDad

You think to yourself - "Wow, how will she ever recover from this? No way she'll bounce-back" And, yet she does. It's just incredible. Don't bold face lies matter anymore? Are we that lost America? Are we?

I remember when Bill Clinton whining, as he wagged his finger in America's face and said, "I had no sexual relationship with that woman, Miss Lewinski." Lying like only a sociopathic liar can. I remember the week that this was all going on that 70% of the country believed Clinton was lying. A bit later the blue dress taught all of us that he was lying. Okay, so 70% of the folks thought their President was lying (before the evidence came out), they could see through the slime-ball. So, what do you think his favorability polls were saying at that time? One would think it couldn't be higher than 30% since 70% thought he was a liar. What do you think? His favorability was near 75%. That means at least half of America was supportive of a guy that they believed was lying right to their faces. That's when I got a cold chill down my spine as I realized that America was growing sick.

You know why they lie? I think it is because they can. And, second many Americans like the lies - they really like the lies - they lie to themselves and they are the most comfortable when others will lie to them, too. Sick as it may sound they simply like it. Like that ol' Fleetwood Mac song says - "tell me sweet lies..."

It is horribly true - Her lies will probably not make one iota of difference...

Thee Soldier Dad...Chuck

Chuck,

A lot of it also stems from the fact, that people just ignore the law(s).

#7 and #9 where tailor made for 'ol Bill and Hill.

WhiskeyBoarder · 03-24-2008, 22:40

While I prefer to lurk rather than post, this issue got me thinking and I would greatly appreciate your insight / reaction to my line of thinking.

Since the Stolen Valor Act of 2005 made falsifying military accolades more easily and stringently punished, shouldn't there be a similar law prohibiting individuals from falsifying acts of valor in their attempt to become Commander in Chief?!?

Senator Clinton’s lie here is absurd. And, as an individual whose life has been affected poignantly by very real sniper fire (as opposed to the type fabricated by Clinton for dramatic effect), I find this particular case of “misspeaking” to be of the most stomach-turning and angering variety.

SF_BHT · 03-24-2008, 22:44

So the next time a girl calls me a lying sack of shi#$ I can tell her I just Misspoke and all is OK?

Or should I call it a "misstatement" and a "minor blip." like she did

kgoerz · 03-25-2008, 04:31

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You think to yourself - "Wow, how will she ever recover from this? No way she'll bounce-back" And, yet she does. It's just incredible. Don't bold face lies matter anymore? Are we that lost America? Are we?

Someone could leak video of Her torturing puppies and her Supporters wouldn't blink an eye.

3SoldierDad · 03-25-2008, 05:01

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyBoarder

While I prefer to lurk rather than post, this issue got me thinking and I would greatly appreciate your insight / reaction to my line of thinking.

Since the Stolen Valor Act of 2005 made falsifying military accolades more easily and stringently punished, shouldn't there be a similar law prohibiting individuals from falsifying acts of valor in their attempt to become Commander in Chief?!?

Senator Clinton’s lie here is absurd. And, as an individual whose life has been affected poignantly by very real sniper fire (as opposed to the type fabricated by Clinton for dramatic effect), I find this particular case of “misspeaking” to be of the most stomach-turning and angering variety.

The poser makes me ill.

You, sir, and folks like you should I think take particular offense. The military community among all others should feel a real pinch of outrage. Our freedom is constantly secured by folks genuinely going into harm's way. Clinton's attempt to pass herself off as some war zone hero is simply loathsome.

If you listen to the full tape on her brag-fest on dodging snipers; you'll hear Clinton say they would send the First Lady to places that were "too dangerous" for the President. She's saying that not only does she have the experience to be President, but as First Lady she actually was facing down bigger dangers. Totally ridiculous - Does she take us for complete idiots?

This woman as our Commander and Chief? What an awful joke.

People should not let her forget this lie. Veterans should ask her about this constantly - simply to express their outrage and let her twist in the wind - Let the world see a liar's face. This is the same woman that didn't want uniformed soldiers in the Whitehouse! People who support her are even worse. They are willing to have a liar lead them. We all have been subject to lliars and their lies, but to support a liar in his or her quest to lead us is simply among the lowest imaginable acts.

This woman is a liar of the worse kind.

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Shouldn't there be a similar law prohibiting individuals from falsifying acts of valor in their attempt to become Commander in Chief?!?

Your point is a good one.

Three Soldier Dad...Chuck

**Razor** · 03-25-2008, 09:32

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Originally Posted by Stras

I remember Bill coming to Tuzla in 1997/1998 and all the troops having the bolts for their rifles taken away by the Secret Service and locked up. Troops standing with their rifles shotguned over their shoulders while Bill reviewed the Troops.

This, to me, says more than any speech or video.

bandycpa · 03-25-2008, 11:43

I heard one of the political pundits say that Hillary "misremembered".

"Misremembered?"

That's the cool thing about politics. When in trouble, create a word that makes what you did sound excusable (like a condition rather than a character flaw).

Remember when Bill said he "misled" people? I see a trend here...

Bandy

Guy · 03-25-2008, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Razor

This, to me, says more than any speech or video.

It happened in Haiti when Gore came to visit also.

Stay safe.

emoore · 03-25-2008, 20:17

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Originally Posted by bandycpa

"misremembered".
Bandy

You don't "misremember" being shot at; The Team Sergeant will get me for repeating the obvious but I can't help myself...she's a lying bitch!!!!

**Team Sergeant** · 03-25-2008, 20:25

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Originally Posted by kgoerz

Someone could leak video of Her torturing puppies and her Supporters wouldn't blink an eye.

I've no doubt this is currently the case. Sort of reminds me of ted kennedy and the Chappaquiddick incident.

Mary Jo Kopechne, you will not be forgotten.

GratefulCitizen · 03-25-2008, 22:13

hillary misspoke.
Meanwhile, bill misspoke about his mis-poke with little Miss Poke.

**Dan** · 03-25-2008, 22:37

My brother wrote this to me earlier this evening and thought it was too good not to be shared...

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...rap/index.html
"I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I misspoke, that was
just a misstatement," she said.

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So she says "millions of words a day"? Hmm, let's see... that was plural, so that's
a minimum of 2 million words per day. Even if she talked non-stop around the clock (imagine that nightmare) that would be over 23 words per second. Quite a pace, even for a someone as full of hot air as she is.

And think of the ecological ramifications of all that C02 being expelled. What is
the carbon footprint of her mouth at "millions of words a day"?

Ret10Echo · 03-26-2008, 06:21

I'm certain she has bought carbon credits from Al Gore to make up for the CO2 discharge...but then again A.G. is an O2 thief.

82ndtrooper · 03-26-2008, 06:26

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Originally Posted by bandycpa

I heard one of the political pundits say that Hillary "misremembered".

"Misremembered?"

That's the cool thing about politics. When in trouble, create a word that makes what you did sound excusable (like a condition rather than a character flaw).

Remember when Bill said he "misled" people? I see a trend here...

Bandy

When I jumped into Panama I had to pull hard on the risers to avoid the sporatic gunfire from PDF troops that where on the terminal buildings roof. We had to low crawl with all our gear 100 meters across Toccumen airstrip because PDF patrols where on foot trying to find us. We finally made it to the terminal building where I personally had tea with Noriega and he agreed to give up and be taken into custody and transported back to the U.S. to face trial.

Oh, sorry, I "misremembered" I jumped into Panama in 1985 for JOTC training, during the day with 150 other 82nd jumpers. Geee, it's been a long week, and I speak like millions of words a day.

If that statememt above where to have been an actual statement, TS would have me banned and the FBI would be knocking on the door.

Yet, millions of U.S. citizens are still praying for a Hillary nomination. It never ceases to amaze me.

TennesseeVol · 03-26-2008, 14:14

Gents,

I give you proof she isn't the lying jezebel you all believe her to be. Hardy har har.

Behold:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHVED...881/486/484625

If that beheamoth link does not work, try this one:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3...881/486/484625

Cheers