03-18-2008, 02:57
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Area Commander
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Thank you posting the link, Reaper Sir. Years ago when I went through it, there were many terms I did not understand. But now, everything mentioned made complete sense and felt nostalgic.
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
There are enough legitimate, high quality training tips already on this board to create an uber gunfighter if the aspirant can put it all together. (That's easier said than done.)
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I'm no uber gunfighter, but I've put my skills against those who attends numerous shooting classes and more years of experience. Sometimes I beat them, but they were always impressed. The search button is indeed the best thing since microwave
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Originally Posted by Tubbs
TS, I can do 100 proper pushups immediately followed by 6 proper pull-ups so I am still working on the physical fitness aspects of proper shooting.
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FWIW
IIRC, the TS did tell someone to go learn how to shoot from him once he can execute proper 100 push-ups and 20 pull-ups (got the pull-ups done, working on the push-ups, TS). However, in a different thread, grip and forearm strength were mentioned being necessary to shoot properly each and every time. I imagine one would do exercises more specific to these two areas. I do these:
- 6 and 10 pounds dumbbell/brick lifts, then held in right and left offhand position (gripped by finger tips, eye focused on the weight when up, then on the distance when down) for 1 to 2 minutes
- Forearm weight-roller
- Crossfit hammer drills.
I could be way off on the proper names of these exercises. These are for pistol. I do something else for rifle
Back to my lane...
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03-18-2008, 09:04
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Originally Posted by Tubbs
I average 90% accuracy overall in the exercise. I seem to be stuck here. I keep a shot log of how many rounds I shoot, the type of ammo, time and date and my accuracy. If I have a friend with me I get them to load the mags for me and slip in a snap cap to simualte a malfunction.
TS, I can do 100 proper pushups immediately followed by 6 proper pull-ups so I am still working on the physical fitness aspects of proper shooting.
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90% accurate..... not good enough. Slow down and become 100% accurate, then slowly turn up the speed.
I think The Reaper has written this a number of times on here:
"Speed is fine but accuracy is final."
Do yourself a favor, stop reading anything Clint Smith is professing and start reading all that Paul Howe is writing.
Team Sergeant
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Originally Posted by frostfire
FWIW
IIRC, the TS did tell someone to go learn how to shoot from him once he can execute proper 100 push-ups and 20 pull-ups (got the pull-ups done, working on the push-ups, TS). However, in a different thread, grip and forearm strength were mentioned being necessary to shoot properly each and every time. I imagine one would do exercises more specific to these two areas. I do these:
- 6 and 10 pounds dumbbell/brick lifts, then held in right and left offhand position (gripped by finger tips, eye focused on the weight when up, then on the distance when down) for 1 to 2 minutes
- Forearm weight-roller
- Crossfit hammer drills.
I could be way off on the proper names of these exercises. These are for pistol. I do something else for rifle
Back to my lane...
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Sounds like you're on the right road!
TS
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03-18-2008, 11:04
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I have to throw this in here, TS and I have had this discussion before with DocT.
Efficiency breeds speed, speed breeds mistakes. The fastest are THE MOST efficient masters of their trade, whether it's a surgeon, shooter or what ever requires multistep actions.
TS hammers his points and they are all true....I am a believer because he has has the pleasure (yeah right), I mean privilege of training my sorry ass to shoot better/more efficiently, and it works. Now I am working on consistency; once my arm heals.....
ss
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03-18-2008, 12:00
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
90% accurate..... not good enough. Slow down and become 100% accurate, then slowly turn up the speed.
I think The Reaper has written this a number of times on here:
"Speed is fine but accuracy is final."
Do yourself a favor, stop reading anything Clint Smith is professing and start reading all that Paul Howe is writing.
Team Sergeant
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Solid copy sir. I will be on google.
What is wrong with Clint Smith?
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03-18-2008, 12:30
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Originally Posted by Tubbs
Solid copy sir. I will be on google.
What is wrong with Clint Smith?
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Absolutely nothing if you are in the market for antiquated defensive training & techniques.
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03-18-2008, 14:33
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Guerrilla
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Having reread TS's op and reread Reaper's link I went to the range and slowly worked through TS's training.
I then went home and learned all about vivo y pedejo, mostly pendejo. I went for a bike ride, fell off and received a Radial head fracture for my effort.
The good news I'm left handed and fractured my right arm. The bad news, I shoot right handed. I will be working on left handed snap cap drills for a while.
As my mother is fond of saying "everyday is a school day".
I would also like to mention that TS is a masterful teacher.
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03-18-2008, 15:27
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I am in a 12 week training Academy right now. We shoot just about every day. Being in the second week we are just now finishing our 15M to 25M slow fire. As painful as a week+ of slow fire was. It improved my shooting greatly. Don’t think slow fire is only for beginners. Its something you have to continuously return to.
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