Team Pack out and Individual Gear SOP

[Today&Tomorrow]

DEMO GEAR
ITEM QTY
GERBER (EOD/DEMO) 5 EA
DOUBLE SIDED ADHESIVE TAPE 10 ROLL
RUBBER BANDS (HEAVY DUTY) 10 PK
MEDICAL TAPE 10 ROLL
100 MPH TAPE 5 ROLL
THUMBTACKS 5 PK
WOMENS HAIR CLIPS 10 PK
CRIMPER 4 EA
RULER 2 EA
TAPE MEASURE 2 EA

[Peregrino]

T&T - Have you read MtnGoat's thread about deployment lists? I get the feeling you're re-inventing the wheel. (I also think you're going to run out of pallet space.) Have you done a site survey and good mission analysis to determine if any of this is available in theater? Or if it's really required?

[Today&Tomorrow]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

T&T - Have you read MtnGoat's thread about deployment lists? I get the feeling you're re-inventing the wheel. (I also think you're going to run out of pallet space.) Have you done a site survey and good mission analysis to determine if any of this is available in theater? Or if it's really required?

I got a majority of it from MtnGoat's list. This isn't necessarily what I will be taking down range. Just a list of tools to have to be able to take downrange....

[The Reaper]

This is not the first time we have asked you if someone did a site survey.

Has anyone been there yet? Is there no PDSS checklist or Lessons Learned/AAR?

What is the availability of hardware in your AO?

BTW, take plenty of padlocks and make sure you keep all of your tools locked up under double security, unless they are expendable and you do not need them.

TR

[Pete]

Might want to look this guy or his unit up.

Talks about tool/engineer boxes and the equipment.

http://www.lejeune.usmc.mil/mces/MAG...ewToolsRec.pdf

Nice thing about the military box - everything fits.

Notice he is talking about squad equipment so this is X 10.

This would not be team level but more like available at the company level, issued out to a team based based on mission requirments.

[Today&Tomorrow]

Yes we had a PDSS in September. That list isn't a list of gear I am taking down range for this mission, it is a list of gear to have on hand to be able to take down range should the mission call for it. I understand the fact that mission will dictate what goes and what stays and that mission will also dictate quantities to take also. As I mentioned before I am trying to come up with a list of gear to keep here and draw from as necessary.

[Peregrino]

OK - That makes a little more sense. I hope the USMC is more lenient about "excess property" than they used to be. A lot of what you've listed are expendables - not worth hoarding in CONUS and usually available OCONUS (the locals have to build stuff too). If the local infrastructure exists it makes a lot more sense to carry a rucksack of cash than it does to waste pallet space and transport cost/effort on stuff you can buy on the local economy. Concentrate on tools, particularly power tools (and ways to secure them). That's what's hard to get downrange. The right tools make you more efficient. You (and your team members) have more important things to do with your time. Basic handtools are a dime a dozen in most places. Labor is cheap, they can afford the extra effort.

[18C4V]

I'm the Senior Charlie on my team and been though multiple JCETS, JCS, and two combat rotations. I've flown on Mil and Commerical air for JCETS. To me it all comes down to how much space do you have, type of mission, length of mission, availabiltiy of OPFUND, items that can be purchased for OPFUND. That comes from your PDSS, IPC, and FPC.

JCETS and JCS can be a pain in the ass especially dealing with weapons, ammo, sim ammo and hazmat regardless of mil air or commerical air.

There's things that you must have and there's things that are nice to have but not really required. Factor in all the other MOS's and type of JCET, you see that space really is a premium.

Without knowning what your JCET is, it's hard to answer if your engineer box has enough materials. For example, gorilla glue is the shit and I would bring lots more. Your demo bag is lacking, I would plus it up and make a better breacher bag. But if you're not doing demo or don't have access to demo, then that's sufficient (usually teaching demo in JCET's is tough to get approved)

Most JCET's and JCS, usually are heavy on weapons, shooting, tactics, MDMP, air ops (fast rope) and medical stuff. I've only done one demo JCET and that was very limited to what we could teach to our counterparts.

You say you're going to build a ASP. Why didn't someone contract that work out on the IPC? You could have checked the status during the MPC, and would have had final word on the FPC. I contracted out ASPs, shooting stands, barriers, and other things that I needed so when I hit the ground it's all there already built.

I would purchase or rent a local generator or compressor and save mine for a back up (unless the gas is good to go). Most third world countries have shitty gas and you'll fuck your shit up.

Regardless of whether or not you're running generators or running off a power grid, bring some step down converters (3000 watts) and power strips. Otherwise you'll blow your high wattage stuff like you're coffee pot and microwave, Xbox, and PS3 (hint remember OHM's law).

If you have a OPFUND, I'd make sure I got a scanner, and a copier for all the SF44' . Otherwise you'll have a bitch trying to find a copier or scanner to clear your OPFUND.

Without more specific info on type of JCET,s it's hard to tell what you need.