MX300

[kgoerz]

We are purchasing the MX300 individual Radios for internal and external Comms. Anyone here know if these are the latest and greatest Models on the Market. They will be used mostly indoors in Tunnels and Transit Systems. They will also be used to communicate with local Agencies.

[Snaquebite]

Not sure exactly what agencies, but being compatable with Mil coms would be nice too. These Motorolas are compatable with the MBITR...Motorola MX300 Series, Motorola Saber, Motorola XTS 3000, and Motorola XTS 5000 according to Thales.

I believe the XTS5000 is the newest.

http://www.motorola.com/governmentan...2354i/id_1670i

[Razor]

Having worked the commo side of NORTHCOM, I'd suggest you ensure the radios are compatible with at least the local emergency management/first responder equipment, if not state-level equipment.

[Ret10Echo]

The 5000, 3000 and 2500 are Mots latest and greatest. Depends on how much you want to spend and what the system requirements are (channel capacity). There are also differences in the bands they operate in. You would have to check with the locals and see where they are in order to verify interoperability.

These are of course what is available, what is programmed in the radio may be a different story.

Good to have something that is P25 compliant.

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XTS 3000

Signalling P25, MDC1200

Power Output VHF-5W, UHF-5W, UHF-4W, 800MHz-3W

Option Board UCM for Encryption

Keypad Yes

Display Yes

Emergency Button Yes

MilSpec Yes

Weight 390g (without battery)

Frequency 138–174 MHz, 403–470 MHz, 450–520 MHz, 806–870MHz

Channels 255

Dimension (H X W X D) 167.13mm x 61.97mmx 41.91mm(without battery)

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XTS 5000

Signalling P25, MDC1200

Power Output 6 W Max

Option Board UCM for Encryption

Keypad Yes, 4 x 3

Display Yes

Emergency Button Yes

MilSpec Yes

Weight 358g (without battery)

Frequency 138–174 MHz, 380–470 MHz, 450–520 MHz, 806–870 MHz

Channels 512

Dimension (H X W X D) 6.58” x 2.44” x 1.83” (without battery)

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by Razor

Having worked the commo side of NORTHCOM, I'd suggest you ensure the radios are compatible with at least the local emergency management/first responder equipment, if not state-level equipment.

Nothing that an ACU 1000 can't fix

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

They will be used mostly indoors in Tunnels and Transit Systems. They will also be used to communicate with local Agencies.

Good luck

You may want to "test" a few under those conditions before you make a large purchase. Commo in the city, tunnels, indoors etc is serious stuff.

Very very few systems work in tunnels and in the concrete jungles. Local cops are using permanent repeaters stations and their car radios are pushing max wattage.

Don't forget mobile repeaters.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

The 5000, 3000 and 2500 are Mots latest and greatest. Depends on how much you want to spend and what the system requirements are (channel capacity). There are also differences in the bands they operate in. You would have to check with the locals and see where they are in order to verify interoperability.

These are of course what is available, what is programmed in the radio may be a different story.

Good to have something that is P25 compliant.

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XTS 3000

Signalling P25, MDC1200

Power Output VHF-5W, UHF-5W, UHF-4W, 800MHz-3W

Option Board UCM for Encryption

Keypad Yes

Display Yes

Emergency Button Yes

MilSpec Yes

Weight 390g (without battery)

Frequency 138–174 MHz, 403–470 MHz, 450–520 MHz, 806–870MHz

Channels 255

Dimension (H X W X D) 167.13mm x 61.97mmx 41.91mm(without battery)

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XTS 5000

Signalling P25, MDC1200

Power Output 6 W Max

Option Board UCM for Encryption

Keypad Yes, 4 x 3

Display Yes

Emergency Button Yes

MilSpec Yes

Weight 358g (without battery)

Frequency 138–174 MHz, 380–470 MHz, 450–520 MHz, 806–870 MHz

Channels 512

Dimension (H X W X D) 6.58” x 2.44” x 1.83” (without battery)

I've just one question if these radios are being used by DoD, Homeland security, etc, just who answers the Emergency Button

[kgoerz]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I've just one question if these radios are being used by DoD, Homeland security, etc, just who answers the Emergency Button

Us

Correction, it's the 5000 that they are buying

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Nothing that an ACU 1000 can't fix

Its a pretty neat set up, but you'd be surprised at how few fed agencies use them, regrettably.

[longrange1947]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I've just one question if these radios are being used by DoD, Homeland security, etc, just who answers the Emergency Button

Believe it or not 911.

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

Us

Correction, it's the 5000 that they are buying

More "stuff" for the guys to fat-finger

Base system is Mots top-end, but capability doesn't mean that the box is programmed for it. Definately want to see what is configured. Fed and Civil interoperability channels would be good to have pre-programmed (while they have the tech on site).

Attached (and linked) is a guide distributed by the DHS Office of Emergency Communications. A good thing to have in with you. The particulars are detailed in there and are also found in the NTIA Manual and the FCC Rules. Realizing you need the interop channels when the incident has occured is too late....oops sorry...soap box...

R10

http://www.npstc.org/documents/NIFOG_Final.pdf

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by Razor

Its a pretty neat set up, but you'd be surprised at how few fed agencies use them, regrettably.

Was just looking at the 2000...IP integration...lots of potential

Only issue I have is that there tends to be a lack of good coordination that should go along with the "magic box".

Most Feds don't want anyone else on their push...

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Only issue I have is that there tends to be a lack of good coordination that should go along with the "magic box".

You mean you can't just spend money on a widget to make all the problems go away? Heresy!