06-11-2007, 07:41
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If it's really as bad as Col M says, I'd recommend using the book as a target - pictures of your 'favorite' politicians optional.
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Why destroy the messenger? A book that informs or moves people to thought should not be destroyed. No photos of politicians, that's another story!
We have the government in DC that we deserve because we keep re-electing them. Polls say that we think they stink, that they are self serving, and that we want our elected officials to do more than work 3 days a week and party. But we will not band together and change the mess we have allowed to grow.
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06-11-2007, 08:41
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Originally Posted by incommin
Why destroy the messenger? A book that informs or moves people to thought should not be destroyed. No photos of politicians, that's another story!
We have the government in DC that we deserve because we keep re-electing them. Polls say that we think they stink, that they are self serving, and that we want our elected officials to do more than work 3 days a week and party. But we will not band together and change the mess we have allowed to grow.
Jim
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True.
Most people hate every person in Congree except for theirs, and they don't care enough about them to get off their asses and do anything, including voting.
If people knew the cost of a free and open election, they would vote in every one at much higher numbers than they do now.
We have far too many complacent (and entitled) citizens and bought politicians in this country.
We all know that the North kept POWs after the war as bargaining chips, as they did with the French and we never went back for them.
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06-11-2007, 09:42
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We all know that the North kept POWs after the war as bargaining chips, as they did with the French and we never went back for them.
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True, but it is the cover up, the failure of those to act that should have acted, and the total break of faith with each and everyone of us that have worn the uniform from that time until the present and ,unfortunately if some of those in power stay there, for those who will take up the torch in the future. Assuming that all of this is true, as it appears to be from the extensive documentation and research, it is unfortunate that there is not a way that those that have passed away could be dug up and shot and those that are still alive be forced to stand naked in the amphitheater in Arlington where they can hear the changing of the guard protecting the tomb of the unknowns until their flesh rots from their bones and not removed until the rats have picked them clean.
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06-11-2007, 10:19
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What can be done?
I don't understand. Call me idealistic and naive, why on earth can't something be done? We spend hours and hours of news cycles on Paris Hilton's prison ordeal but THIS doesn't make the news? You'd think someone in the media would have picked this one up and run with it given the names involved. It doesn't make any sense to me.
I feel like I've been punched in the gut and I haven't read the book yet.
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06-11-2007, 17:47
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I don't understand. Call me idealistic and naive, why on earth can't something be done? We spend hours and hours of news cycles on Paris Hilton's prison ordeal but THIS doesn't make the news? You'd think someone in the media would have picked this one up and run with it given the names involved. It doesn't make any sense to me.
I feel like I've been punched in the gut and I haven't read the book yet.
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I know many have negative opinions about Haney's Inside Delta Force Book. But he is the only one who I can quote. He has a very interesting chapter about what you are asking. His credibility aside, other people have voiced very similar comments. Nothing in US Military history compares to this. There just aren't words to describe it.
Maybe a cause but by no means an excuse. Vietnam was a dark period in our history. Not just the War, but thats what most considered to be the biggest issue dividing America then. Now the War ends. Everyone wants to put it behind them, just like when all Wars end. No one wants to hear the word Vietnam War.
Now you have people bringing up the possibility of living POW'S still in Vietnam. Not only that, also saying the Government knows about POW'S left behind. No one wanted to listen. The more time that passed the less likely someone would listen. Hard to even think about it.
Whats the name of the Book you are reading Sir?
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06-11-2007, 17:56
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Whats the name of the Book you are reading Sir?
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An Enormous Crime-just came out this month. They also have a web site going up on this whole business that adds continuously to what the book already has provided. One of the author's comes from your home state, former representative Hendon.
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06-15-2007, 14:18
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An Enormous Crime-just came out this month. They also have a web site going up on this whole business that adds continuously to what the book already has provided. One of the author's comes from your home state, former representative Hendon.
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Thanks Sir, I thought that was the title of your post. Ill be state side in a week to pick a copy up.
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