01-23-2007, 17:31
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TR, that is exactly what I was looking for. Maybe I just have a "phobia" about compressed gas. K-1 and Propane are probably more forgiving in an accident than gasoline or alchohol unless it is a catastrohic failure or something similar.
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01-26-2007, 07:59
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This is an excellent resource on food storage from the Mormons; they're masters of the subject. LDS Food storage
In the right-hand pane, especially check out the "Dry Pack Handouts" which will lead you to a comprehensive PDF that details storage methods (they are moving to mylar pouches over canning), types of foods to store, storage lifespan, and critically, recipes on how to use the stuff.
The foods they recommend are inexpensive bulk items that can be turned into a variety of meals using the included recipes. I certainly wouldn't want all of my "insurance" food to be bulk, but it's a good, inexpensive way to extend your food stores.
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01-26-2007, 09:19
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The site Warrifles.com has a guy who organizes group buys of case lots of Mountain House at cost + 5%. Six #10 cans of Beef Stroganoff sell for $65 vs. the $117 to $150 elsewhere. Purchases over $500 get free drop-shipping directly from Mountain House. It's the ninth buy and customers appear happy. They have single, double and quad pouches, #10 cans, and limited quantities of unadvertised product like vacuum-dried pork chops. They carry pretty much the whole Mtn Hs line. They don't split cases. The buy ends on Friday Jan 19.
Here's the site:
http://www.warrifles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33873
I have no affiliation, nor does ps.com.
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As the PS.com crash test dummy, I have bought in on this and will let you know how it turns out.
So far, so good.
Thanks for the tip, mw.
TR
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01-26-2007, 14:14
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For those of us who are allergic to Gluten, here is some stock and storage advice:
www.nowheat.com/grfx/nowheat/y2k.htm
I am going to start as soon as possible. Anybody see any mistakes in this list?
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01-27-2007, 08:24
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As the PS.com crash test dummy, I have bought in on this and will let you know how it turns out.
So far, so good.
Thanks for the tip, mw.
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02-06-2007, 11:45
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Outstanding info on preparednes, keep it going. Having lived in Florida for the last 20 yrs.
and after hurricane Andrew in '92 I can say that having enough water, MRE's
and ammo for two or three weeks is crucial . Generators are great but not as essential as the latter. Coleman kerosene lamps will suffice with enough in the medic kit to handle most emergencies. It's amazing to me that when electricity is gone, we revert back to what humans fought for 1000 years ago:
Water and property.... And one can rest at ease when bands of roving thugs
near your wrecked place as you cuddle your AC-556 next to you and the wife has the Remington 870 ready! True peace of mind!
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02-06-2007, 12:12
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Please read all the stickies, fill out your profile, and introduce yourself in the proper area prior to posting again. We like to know with whom we are conversing on this board.
Have a very SF day.
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02-28-2007, 09:18
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
As the PS.com crash test dummy, I have bought in on this and will let you know how it turns out.
So far, so good.
Thanks for the tip, mw.
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I got in on the Mountain House Group Buy at WarRifles.com and ordered the food in January. I have eaten MH food many times and have no issues with it, other than the typical American complaint about portion sizes.
As you may or may not be aware, MH food is in short supply right now and many companies are low or out of stock and discounts are hard to come by.
Curiously, I did learn that MH is apparently packed by Oregon Freeze Dry food company. Clearly, I see Harsey's hand in this somehow.
Broadsword was putting the 9th MH group buy there together, I placed the order with him in his preferred format and sent him the payment well before his deadline. The price was $657.10 (actual order) + $32.86 (handling fee). The shipping was free for orders over $500. IIRC, this represented about a 50% discount from MSRP, and the shipping would have been substantial, so that was quite a good deal.
The order was processed and I received a shipping notice from MH last week.
The trucking company called yesterday and I gave them directions to the house. We cut the wrapping off the pallet and the driver helped me offload the eleven cases of food.
It took a little more time than calling a MH vendor, but I felt that the savings were well worth it. Broadsword described how he wanted it done and I followed the directions closely. He did his part, communicated well, and we now have a month or two of long-term storable buffer should any emergency arise which would interrupt our normal food supply. Or if I go on an extended camping trip.
In summary, I heartily recommend the WarRifles MH Group Buy for those looking to extend their food storage and who like freeze dried food.
TR
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02-28-2007, 16:04
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thank-you for the info I had been looking at that site and the group buys, will we work through them, or are we / should we do our own group buy?
thanks,
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02-28-2007, 16:10
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thank-you for the info I had been looking at that site and the group buys, will we work through them, or are we / should we do our own group buy?
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He seems to have the connections, the system, and the desire to do the work, so I would just sign up and get in on their buys.
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03-02-2007, 16:38
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In summary, I heartily recommend the WarRifles MH Group Buy for those looking to extend their food storage and who like freeze dried food.
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I would have thought that this would have got people talking again… has this thread died?
I hope not!
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03-02-2007, 17:20
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… has this thread died?  .....
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This thread will never die. It's just taking a deap breath.
Tornado season has started, little early. Hurricane season just ahead. Hang on the ride will be bumpy.
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03-02-2007, 18:23
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Frankly, I am a bit disappointed that after Katrina, winter storms, tornados, etc. we have not had more first person accounts of what worked, and didn't work, what was good advice, and bad, etc.
Those who did share, thank you very much. It is appreciated.
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03-02-2007, 19:20
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Frankly, I am a bit disappointed that after Katrina, winter storms, tornados, etc. we have not had more first person accounts of what worked, and didn't work, what was good advice, and bad, etc.
Those who did share, thank you very much. It is appreciated.
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Stole my thunder!!
I was just going to post if anyone ran into problems this winter with the storms out West and if they had to put anything from this thread into action.
Since this started, I now carry a good first aid kit in my car. I've come across two accidents (one being a tractor trailer rolling over about 50+ meters in front of me!), and always made sure I grabbed the kit and my flashlight. Luckily, never had to use it at all.
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03-03-2007, 04:41
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Stole my thunder!!
I was just going to post if anyone ran into problems this winter with the storms out West and if they had to put anything from this thread into action.
Since this started, I now carry a good first aid kit in my car. I've come across two accidents (one being a tractor trailer rolling over about 50+ meters in front of me!), and always made sure I grabbed the kit and my flashlight. Luckily, never had to use it at all.
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This entire thread has been a most interesting and informative read. I don't want to get off track here, but the following may generate some ideas or (hopefully) constructive critism regarding regarding winter travel emergencies:
I live in Alaska and experience a variety of conditions and occurences with a lot of potential for disaster.
1. I travel 120 miles R/T almost every day from a semu-rural home to Anchorage and have made it a point to carry and maintain a basic kit in my vehicle, including first aid, warm clothing, fire making, light, blades, firearm, food, water and tools (water is just 1 qt nalgene in my laptop bag.). There are several bridges and rivers that can separate me from home at the half way point and I could be in for a long and cold hike if not trapped. In a real disaster (earthquake, volcano, fire - we get them all), I could be completely cut off from home for an extended period. This has happened to me for short periods a few times.
2. I also fly above the arctic circle usually one week each month. This week I left -41degF and blowing snow there to return to 0degF and 60-70mph winds. In all my air travels I carry what emergency/survival gear the TSA allows in my day pack, which sadly doesn't amount to much more than clothing and a minimal personal kit without blades, etc.
3. I don't rely on the airline personnel or government agencies for my personal survival on these trips. We fly over 600 miles of frozen wilderness.
I have always made it a priority to be as prepared as possible for any cold weather travel contingencies and have been thankful for that on several occassions over the years here in the frozen north, even in summer. I wish I could convince my family to take this more seriously instead of relying on me (good chance I will be gone).
What am I missing? Is this useful to anyone? I know I haven't addressed winter storms on the homefront, or what gear I carry and why, but I thought the travel issue important.
Thanks for your patience.
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