11-16-2005, 08:16
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Quiet Professional
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fayetteville
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Drooling over here
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Originally Posted by Specat572
If you hold Quiet Proffesional status here, PM myself or SERPENT5XX and we will get you connected directly with POF for a great deal. Will explain in my PM reply......
Thank you all,
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It worked, this whole thread has me drooling.
I'll PM one of you two guys in about 2 weeks to set something up for an upper & lower transaction. I'm thinking of an X-Mas gift for myself. I'll have to get up with my local FFL guy to keep the paper work legal.
Pete
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11-17-2005, 21:55
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Not A Problem
Pete,
very cool that you are interested in one of Frank's guns. Remember though, this connection is for the Bubbas out there doing the real deal. Frank is serious about helping out the guys here with Quiet Professional status.
Like I said before, just PM SERPENT5XX or myself and we will do what we can to help expedite the process of aquiring one. BUT.... these uppers, as well as complete guns are becoming highly sought after. The wait list is growing brother.
best regards
Specat572
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02-03-2006, 06:10
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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HK vs. POF
Since the HK416 features a cold hammer forged barrel, I wonder why POF chooses to manufacture their weapons without a cold hammer forged barrel?
Is a cold hammer forged barrel a better choice of steel than the 4150 Mil-B-1159F Vanadium Alloy for a combat carbine barrel?
I mean no disrespect, just curious.
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02-03-2006, 09:27
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A hammer forged barrel has some superior characteristics.
Unfortunately, it takes some very expensive equipment to make.
TR
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02-06-2006, 02:23
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Edit to add: I will answer this one for you, the higher rail will have zero impact on your POA and POI. Now if you would be so kind to please explain your definition POA an POI to me?
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Well, as far as I know, Point of Aim (where you're looking) / Point of Impact (where you hit). Granted, I haven't used a whole lot of different optics (mainly the Aimpoint), but it just seems like simple math that if you change the height of where the optic sits then your point of impact will be different...so you would need to re-zero obviously. I think I was assuming that optics have an ideal height they should be at on the rifle. I could very well be wrong, I don't know the math of it all.
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02-06-2006, 07:27
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Originally Posted by Sindervhit
Well, as far as I know, Point of Aim (where you're looking) / Point of Impact (where you hit). Granted, I haven't used a whole lot of different optics (mainly the Aimpoint), but it just seems like simple math that if you change the height of where the optic sits then your point of impact will be different...so you would need to re-zero obviously. I think I was assuming that optics have an ideal height they should be at on the rifle. I could very well be wrong, I don't know the math of it all.
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Just making sure we were on the same sheet of music.
I'm not sure what you are getting at but if you sit an optic or iron sight on an upper receiver, and zero it your POA and POI should not change. Not unless you move those sights say to another upper receiver.
Optics have an ideal height, and they are pretty much set to that height. Then again I've seen men with long necks and men with no necks, so a higher or lower rail might be of some benefit to those. I prefer a higher optic and or iron sight, and it has to due with sight acquisition while at teh high ready. Some may not like that while in the prone.
hope that helped
TS
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02-21-2006, 15:22
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Asset
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: SE Pennsylvania
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The HK416
The HK416 will cowitness the iron sight with an Aimpoint. I have mine sighted in at 50 yards. Out of a 10.5 inch barrel, I don't think you're going to try to engage targets at 100+ yards. I think a 50 yard benchmark is ideal for this carbine.
My 14.5 inch is sighted in at 100 yards with a 4x NSN ACOG.
I also recommend for any 10.5" carbine, you may want to try the Krink flash hider. I have a krink on the end of my 10.5" 416 upper and the recoil is noticeably different. It's a slower push, much like an HK roller lock gun. Very good in my opinion.
Here's my 416 set up.
416Mark231.jpg
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02-22-2006, 18:43
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Asset
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
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That rifle is gorgeous!! How on earth did you come across an HK416? And did you have to pay the $2200+ for it (if I can ask that)?
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