05-02-2013, 06:54
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Duke Ins. Plan cover Sexual Reassignment Surgery
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Sexual reassignment surgery for transgendered students will be covered in students’ health care plans, effective this Fall.
Administrators signed a new contract with Duke’s health insurance provider, Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina, that will include up to $50,000 to cover sexual reassignment surgery, Dean of Students Sue Wasiolek confirmed. With this new coverage, she said, all vital aspects of transgender health care—counseling, hormone therapy, and surgery—are now included in students’ plans.
“The addition of sexual reassignment surgery with a $50,000 cap makes Duke’s student health care plan one of the most, if not the most, transgender-inclusive plans in the country,” said junior Sunny Frothingham, the incoming outreach chair for Blue Devils United. “This is a huge step forward for Duke.”
Each year, the Student Health Advisory Committee examines the Duke Student Medical Insurance Plan and reviews how students use the plan to determine if changes need to be made to the benefits provided to students, Wasiolek said.
She added that this is the last step in providing complete coverage to Duke’s transgender community.
“For the past several years, we have considered benefits for transgendered students, looking first at counseling and hormone therapy benefits, then at ‘top’ surgery benefits and most recently at ‘bottom’ surgery benefits,” Wasiolek said.
The additional coverage will have a “minimal” impact on cost to students, Wasiolek said. The coverage will cause a 0.3 percent increase to student costs.
Overall, student health care premiums will increase by a total of 8 percent next year, Wasiolek said.
“The plan premium is increasing 8 percent next year, with 4 percent of that increase resulting from taxes associated with the Affordable Care Act,” she said. “The remaining 4 percent is attributed to health care cost trend and benefit enhancements.”
Wasiolek said the $50,000 cap was set after consulting with the standards of Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina.
“Our cap is competitive with or higher than our peer institutions,” said junior Jacob Tobia, president of BDU. “This is really important symbolically for the Duke community. I hope that this will help us remain really competitive as an institution when recruiting students, because I know that in the past we have had transgendered students that have been extremely successful at Duke, including merit scholars.”
Tobia added that this inclusion is one step to further ensure that students spanning the LGBT community feel welcome at Duke.
The updated plan is in line with a Duke Student Government resolution passed in March. The legislation urged the administration to comply with the standards for transgender health as recommended by the American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association and World Professional Association for Transgender Health, all of which have declared that comprehensive health care for transgendered individuals must include mental health care, hormone therapy and sexual reassignment surgery.
“I am proud of our students for bringing forward this issue and of Duke for making an immediate change to our program,” said Vice President for Student Affairs Larry Moneta.
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Insuring job security for future generations of graduates with degrees health care, hormone therapy and specialists in sexual reassignment surgery.
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article...x-reassignment
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05-02-2013, 07:07
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WHOGAS. If you don't agree with the plan, look for another. Meh.
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05-02-2013, 07:41
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WHOGAS. If you don't agree with the plan, look for another. Meh.
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That is for the time being a possibility, but considering transgender health care is becoming a individuals right it will permeate well beyond the education system.
In time in order to fair and equal, all plans will cover parts replacement.
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05-02-2013, 08:01
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That is for the time being a possibility, but considering transgender health care is becoming a individuals right it will permeate well beyond the education system.
In time in order to fair and equal, all plans will cover parts replacement.
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I bet you have a health care plan that covers the things you want covered: knee replacements, you may need a lung or a liver or a heart, etc.
Why do you have a problen.with someone else doing the same, regardless of the fact you may not agree with the pieces parts that need to be replaced.
I thought we were a society based on "equal rights for all" based on the vision of the pursuit of Life and Liberty. Or shoukd we now say "only if we agree with ways in which someone.lives their life". The fact that you accuse liberals of infringing on YOUR rights, but have no problem infringing on someone else's because you disagree with it is the height of hypocracy.
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05-02-2013, 08:09
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Group plans
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I...Why do you have a problen.with someone else doing the same, regardless of the fact you may not agree with the pieces parts that need to be replaced..............
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Because group plans cover a wide range of things most folks don't need or want.
A check the box type of health insurance similar to car insurance would greatly reduce the cost for most folks.
Kinda' changes the reason some folks pick a college. "I picked this one so I could have a sex change during summer break."
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05-02-2013, 08:24
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Because group plans cover a wide range of things most folks don't need or want.
A check the box type of health insurance similar to car insurance would greatly reduce the cost for most folks.
Kinda' changes the reason some folks pick a college. "I picked this one so I could have a sex change during summer break."
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By that rationale, I have pretty good DNA, and have never smoked. Odds are I will never need a lung transplant. Why shoukd I pay for one for someone else?
I do agree with your point that I wish there was a checklist type plan out there.
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05-02-2013, 08:34
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Insurance coverage is not free, hell the government kind isn't and they can print their own $.
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THe more medically unnecessary treatments that are covered, the more ALL participants will be forced to pay in premiums to cover the expense.
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Our private insurance industry AND government insurance programs have always excluded numerous "elective", "cosmetic", or "Medically unnecessary" procedures.
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INDIVIDUALS have the freedom to make the "choice" to have such procedures performed at any time of their choosing. They simply pay for them.
Knee replacements being used as a comparative example is ludicrous. Keeping a patient from requiring the continous use of high dose narcotics for pain management, preventing long term hepatic/GI issues with high dose NSAIDS, continuous need for physical therapy, and correcting lack of function/mobility consequences that can make it difficult to maintain employment are medically necessary.
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05-02-2013, 08:24
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I thought we were a society based on "equal rights for all" based on the vision of the pursuit of Life and Liberty.
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You thought but did you read and/or study what you are quoting here?
If you are referring to the Declaration of Independence, it reads: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
It states that humans were created with equal ability to make something of themselves, not equal outcomes.
It doesn't guarantee happiness just the pursuit of it.
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05-03-2013, 07:58
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
It states that humans were created with equal ability to make something of themselves, not equal outcomes.
It doesn't guarantee happiness just the pursuit of it.
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Fantastic! If only we could get the PC police to understand this...
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05-02-2013, 08:44
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Missed Sacamuelas above post while writing mine. Sacamuelas stated it best.
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05-02-2013, 09:01
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I don't see this as elective. Something has to be done...the suicide rate among the transgendered is 41%. I believe that gender identity and sexual orientation are hard-wired, genetically and/or epigenetically.
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05-02-2013, 15:12
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I bet you have a health care plan that covers the things you want covered: knee replacements, you may need a lung or a liver or a heart, etc.
Why do you have a problen.with someone else doing the same, regardless of the fact you may not agree with the pieces parts that need to be replaced.
I thought we were a society based on "equal rights for all" based on the vision of the pursuit of Life and Liberty. Or shoukd we now say "only if we agree with ways in which someone.lives their life". The fact that you accuse liberals of infringing on YOUR rights, but have no problem infringing on someone else's because you disagree with it is the height of hypocracy.
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Kind of like abortion, I don't feel I should be required pitch my hard earned money into it. And were do you stop....breast implants, penis extensions, genital piercings ???? Hell, I betcha their is a group out there that wishes they could be both sexs and could conceive all on their lonesome.
Beside there are much cheaper methods.....Strap On Prosthetic's.
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05-02-2013, 16:58
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Kind of like abortion, I don't feel I should be required pitch my hard earned money into it. And were do you stop....breast implants, penis extensions, genital piercings ???? Hell, I betcha their is a group out there that wishes they could be both sexs and could conceive all on their lonesome.
Beside there are much cheaper methods.....Strap On Prosthetic's.
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Exactly.
Where do you draw the line?
Low self-esteem from a big nose or flat chest?
Should other students (or their parents) have to pay to fix these genetically imposed challenges?
Reduction surgery when that doesn't fix the problem?
Tattoo removal? A few extra pounds?
Where does it end?
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