View Full Version : The Special Forces unit is known as C-110, or EUCOM CIF
Dog Pound Zulu
07-24-2013, 06:33
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/general-cant-explain-why-forces-not-deployed-to-benghazi/?cat_orig=world
Gen. Carter Ham, the former head of U.S. forces in Africa, has admitted that highly trained Special Forces were stationed just a few hours away from Benghazi on the night of the attack but were not deployed to Libya.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/general-cant-explain-why-forces-not-deployed-to-benghazi/#QZ05Tr85FPUBPvhS.99
Stargazer
07-24-2013, 09:09
So General Ham believed since the first wave of attack was over, the CIA Annex would not be a possible target for a second wave of attacks? He was thinking recovery and possible hostage/rescue situation. Lord, they are in evacuation mode, while valiant men are in a hell fight defending their lives. :(
I realize it is easy to second guess decisions when we have the benefit of what happened afterwards, but I find his assessment and response disappointing. For me, leaders of this nature do not instill confidence that I believe our fighting men and women deserve.
miclo18d
07-24-2013, 18:35
So General Ham believed since the first wave of attack was over,..... He was thinking recovery and possible hostage/rescue situation. .
He was thinking gorganzola when clearly it was Brie time, Baby!
BingoBango
07-24-2013, 19:09
This goes so much deeper than our Columbo-esque General would like us to believe.
Now where did I put my trusty tin foil hat?
The Reaper
07-24-2013, 20:30
So General Ham believed since the first wave of attack was over, the CIA Annex would not be a possible target for a second wave of attacks? He was thinking recovery and possible hostage/rescue situation....
Well, that was what the POTUS told him to expect....:rolleyes::munchin
TR
Is anything like the Clinton administration; they (the CIF) probably deployed (to Croatia) with blanks....:D
The 'fog of war' and perceived clarity of hindsight - a troublesome dilemma for which a 'cure all' remains yet beyond our grasp.
Richard
Team Sergeant
07-25-2013, 10:45
Is anything like the Clinton administration; they (the CIF) probably deployed (to Croatia) with blanks....:D
In Carter's administration they would have deployed with out weapons......
Stargazer
07-25-2013, 11:51
In Carter's administration they would have deployed with out weapons......
Speaking of Carter Administration... perhaps General Ham recalls Major General John K. Singlaub career killer after publicly disagreeing with a President's position.
The 'fog of war' and perceived clarity of hindsight - a troublesome dilemma for which a 'cure all' remains yet beyond our grasp.
I suspect that will always be the case with engagements of war/conflict.
Honestly, I am not sure what I think will be gained by the ongoing pursuit of filling in the missing puzzle pieces. Nothing will bring back those lost or fill the empty chairs that loved ones and family members live with daily. For me personally, it's more about holding those in positions of power accountable for the actions/inaction they take. I've gone over the timeline involving the 'known' activities from time-to-time and am bewildered by inaction or lack of readiness based on events leading up to the 11th. If Americans were in a hotspot why would we not anticipate attacks and be ready to respond? I suspect that the truth is far simpler than what imaginations may envision... usually is the case. However, this administration bears some responsibility for feeding the beast with their ever illusive dance...
As a concerned civilian my views may be deemed out of place, if that is the case, please accept my apology.
The 'fog of war' and perceived clarity of hindsight - a troublesome dilemma for which a 'cure all' remains yet beyond our grasp.
Richard
All very true. But at the same time, I think an argument could be made for Voltaire's statement that "Dans ce pays-ci, il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres"
Now I know Voltaire did not really believe in the statement that he put in one his character's mouth. But I happen to belong to school of thought that believes the execution of Admiral John Byng help the UK found its empire even if it was not technically just.
Bottom line: It is reasonable to demand that charges brought against a private be proved beyond all reasonable doubt. But if you continue to allow commanders off the hook for caution on the grounds that it might have seemed reasonable at the time and at the same time punish commanders for every operation that fails, don't you create a culture of timidity that harms the over all effectiveness of the military?