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Old 01-07-2006, 15:54   #1
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US Sniper gets some

!! my error on thread title!!
Sniper shot that took out an insurgent killer from three quarters of a mile
Toby Harnden in Ramadi
(Filed: 01/01/2006)

Gazing through the telescopic sight of his M24 rifle, Staff Sgt Jim Gilliland, leader of Shadow sniper team, fixed his eye on the Iraqi insurgent who had just killed an American soldier.

His quarry stood nonchalantly in the fourth-floor bay window of a hospital in battle-torn Ramadi, still clasping a long-barrelled Kalashnikov. Instinctively allowing for wind speed and bullet drop, Shadow's commander aimed 12 feet high.

A single shot hit the Iraqi in the chest and killed him instantly. It had been fired from a range of 1,250 metres, well beyond the capacity of the powerful Leupold sight, accurate to 1,000 metres.

"I believe it is the longest confirmed kill in Iraq with a 7.62mm rifle," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, 28, who hunted squirrels in Double Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and then people.

"He was visible only from the waist up. It was a one in a million shot. I could probably shoot a whole box of ammunition and never hit him again."

Later that day, Staff Sgt Gilliland found out that the dead soldier was Staff Sgt Jason Benford, 30, a good friend.

The insurgent was one of between 55 and 65 he estimates that he has shot dead in less than five months, putting him within striking distance of sniper legends such as Carlos Hathcock, who recorded 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam. One of his men, Specialist Aaron Arnold, 22, of Medway, Ohio, has chalked up a similar tally.

"It was elating, but only afterwards," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, recalling the September 27 shot. "At the time, there was no high-fiving. You've got troops under fire, taking casualties and you're not thinking about anything other than finding a target and putting it down. Every shot is for the betterment of our cause."

All told, the 10-strong Shadow sniper team, attached to Task Force 2/69, has killed just under 200 in the same period and emerged as the US Army's secret weapon in Ramadi against the threat of the hidden Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb - the insurgency's deadliest tactic.

Above the spot from which Staff Sgt Gilliland took his record shot, in a room at the top of a bombed-out observation post which is code-named Hotel and known jokingly to soldiers as the Ramadi Inn, are daubed "Kill Them All" and "Kill Like you Mean it".

On another wall are scrawled the words of Senator John McCain: "America is great not because of what she has done for herself but because of what she has done for others."

The juxtaposition of macho slogans and noble political rhetoric encapsulates the dirty, dangerous and often callous job the sniper has to carry out as an integral part of a campaign ultimately being waged to help the Iraqi people.

With masterful understatement, Lt Col Robert Roggeman, the Task Force 2/69 commander, conceded: "The romantic in me is disappointed with the reception we've received in Ramadi," a town of 400,000 on the banks of the Euphrates where graffiti boasts, with more than a degree of accuracy: "This is the graveyard of the Americans".

"We're the outsiders, the infidels," he said. "Every time somebody goes out that main gate he might not come back. It's still a running gun battle."

Highly effective though they are, he worries about the burden his snipers have to bear. "It's a very God-like role. They have the power of life and death that, if not held in check, can run out of control. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

"Every shot has to be measured against the Rules of Engagement [ROE], positive identification and proportionality."

Staff Sgt Gilliland explains that his Shadow team operates at the "borderlines" of the ROE, making snap judgements about whether a figure in the crosshairs is an insurgent or not.

"Hunters give their animals respect," he said, spitting out a mouthful of chewing tobacco. "If you have no respect for what you do you're not going to be very good or you're going to make a mistake. We try to give the benefit of the doubt.

"You've got to live with it. It's on your conscience. It's something you've got to carry away with you. And if you shoot somebody just walking down the street, then that's probably going to haunt you."

Although killing with a single shot carries an enormous cachet within the sniper world, their most successful engagements have involved the shooting a up to 10 members of a single IED team.

"The one-shot-one-kill thing is one of beauty but killing all the bad dudes is even more attractive," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, whose motto is "Move fast, shoot straight and leave the rest to the counsellors in 10 years" and signs off his e-mails with "silent souls make.308 holes".

Whether Shadow team's work will ultimately make a difference in Iraq is open to question. No matter how many insurgents they shoot, there seems no shortage of recruits to plant bombs.

Col John Gronski, the overall United States commander in Ramadi, said there could not be a military solution. "You could spend years putting snipers out and killing IED emplacers and at the political level it would make no difference."

As they prepare to leave Iraq, however, Staff Sgt Gilliland and his men hope that they have bought a little more time for the country's politicians to fix peace and stability in their sights.
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Old 01-08-2006, 01:39   #2
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thank you for posting this. Politically beneficial or not, somebody has to do the job and save American lives.

Is that the wrong weapon system in the picture?
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Old 01-08-2006, 02:24   #3
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Is that the wrong weapon system in the picture?
Yes, that is an M4 Carbine.

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Old 01-08-2006, 10:40   #4
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"Shadow Sniper Team"?

COME ON!!!!

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When I was 19, I did a guy in Laos with a rifle shot in high wind. They told me, maybe eight or... even ten guys in the world could have made that shot. ...It's the only thing I was ever good at.
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Riggs: You're General Peter McAlister, Commander of Shadow Company.
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Old 01-08-2006, 13:27   #5
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"Shadow Sniper Team"?

COME ON!!!!
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Old 01-08-2006, 14:44   #6
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Have you noticed that these days everybody's a "hero" "first this/that" "best >insert word<"

It seems to have come with the Army of one generation...A lot of self-aggrandizing and very little QP...
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Old 01-08-2006, 18:09   #7
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I don't know One-Zero, he admitted the shot was luck..
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Old 01-09-2006, 00:43   #8
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SSG Gilliland is indeed a damm fine shot and an American Soldier. I certainly wish we would hear more about the fine men and women in our military than Paris Hilton's love spat with with another spoiled rich kid in today's popular media.

Thank you SSG Gilliland and the rest of the men of TF 2/69
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Old 01-09-2006, 08:17   #9
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SSG Gilliland is indeed a damm fine shot and an American Soldier. I certainly wish we would hear more about the fine men and women in our military than Paris Hilton's love spat with with another spoiled rich kid in today's popular media.

Thank you SSG Gilliland and the rest of the men of TF 2/69
No doubt. Just from reading the interview, he also seems to be a humble man and quite professional. But "Shadow Team"?
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Old 01-09-2006, 09:34   #10
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But "Shadow Team"?
Perhaps he is a Martin Riggs fan too and is pulling a reporters leg?
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Shadow team is kinda......poor taste. But there are worse names I suppose.
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:04   #12
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I don't know one-zero, he admitted the shot was luck..
I know, I know...I should jam the "journalists" vice the guy. I get irritated sometimes by the overt boastfullness when I think of the stories that will never be told - where such shots aren't "luck" and entire teams of individuals have BCs approaching/surpassing that of our mentors. And that stuff just isn't as important once the shine wears off the job ...Alas, this is probably a thread I best stay out of - even though I started it
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:14   #13
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I have been in contact with the man and he is plain spoken and knows what he is doing. He has sent me several pages of AARs and TTPs and we have exchanged several emails.

I do believe that the Shadow thing was a joke purposely played due to the "Riggs" statement.

My only concern is that they showed both the inside and the outside of his perimeter hide site and that now makes it a target.

They have a very effective record in his sniper section and he is doing good things. I think he was taken by the media.

Front Sight, I think he means proportionality of force to threat, it is one of those BS military, higher ups, cover my a**, sort of things. Another is Proportionality of value of target versus compromise of your position, need a couple more?
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Old 01-25-2006, 20:49   #14
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Have to add a big plus one to Longrange's post.

My biggest concern was the hide giveaway as well.

The guys left there have been taking it to 'em.

Jim may be with my crew at SHOT SHOW.

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