01-03-2006, 21:11
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Why the Chinese don't mess with us!!
Here is a "Re-enactment" of an event from the early days of Iraqui-Freedom.
Enjoy!!
http://www.systems.textron.com/video...SFW-in-OIF.wmv
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01-04-2006, 08:04
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That was cool.
We've got more "Smart people" than they do, I guess. 
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01-06-2006, 17:35
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Here's a link with both Animations and a Video showing what the earlier clip was about :
http://www.systems.textron.com/mainf...ke/blu108.html
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01-06-2006, 18:16
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Originally Posted by Sdiver
That was cool.
We've got more "Smart people" than they do, I guess. |
No, they definitely have more people and logically, more smart ones as well.
We seem to be protecting the stupid here and encouraging them to reproduce.
TR
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01-07-2006, 11:52
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GO BLUE!!!! 
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01-08-2006, 11:43
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Brilliant technology demonstration. How relevant is it when you put the delivery platform (B-52s) up against an intact Chinese theater air defense capability?  Peregrino
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01-09-2006, 11:37
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An F-16 can carry 4 SFWs ( Sensor Fused Weapon), with each canister carrying ten BLU-108/B sub-munitions in two rows of 5, and each sub-munition containing four "Skeet" warheads each. An F-15E can carry 10 SFWs.
However, the issue of Air superiority is paramount; as pointed out by Peregrino.
The B52 platform offers extended loiter over held airspace, ideal for OEF/OIF. Air Superiority and AA suppression must be established for tactical air to reign free, in any scenario invovling strong air defense.
Since the Russians have developed an SFW-class sub-munition, it's likely the PRC has a similar system, as well.
-Seth
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01-09-2006, 11:57
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Anti-Tank Cluster Bomb
Type
Cluster bomb.
Development
This anti-tank cluster bomb has been developed by the China North Industries Corporation (NORINCO) for use by the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). The development is believed to have taken place in the mid-1980s and appears to use the same body components as the NORINCO anti-runway cluster bomb. The bomb is designed to carry 16 sensor fuzed submunitions/bomblets which were developed for the purpose of attacking tanks through their top armour. The cluster bomb is fitted with Russian spaced suspension lugs and is believed to have been cleared for carriage on J-7 (MiG-21), Q-5 (A-5 `Fantan'), J-8 `Finback', Su-27 (J-11) `Flanker' and Su-30MKK aircraft of the PLAAF.
Description
The cluster bomb is similar in size and appearance to the Chilean family of general purpose cluster bombs and probably uses the same body components as NORINCO's other cluster bombs. Its cylindrical canister-shaped body has an ogival nose and a flip-out cruciform tail assembly. The bomb is fitted with standard Russian 250 mm spaced suspension lugs, and is reported to be available also with NATO 356 mm spaced lugs. The bomb is 2.5 m long, has a body diameter of 410 mm, and weighs 350 kg. The tailspan closed is 0.45 m and it extends to 0.72 m once the bomb has cleared the release aircraft. The bomb is loaded with 16 sensor fuzed bomblets, which are each 0.22 m long, have a body diameter of 135 mm and weigh 4.5 kg. After release from the parent aircraft the flip-out rear fins extend and the cluster bomb follows a normal ballistic trajectory. At a predetermined altitude the outer case of the bomb opens and the 16 submunitions are ejected and spread over a wide area. Each bomblet has a retarding parachute which decelerates it to a speed of 8 to 15 m/s with a spin rate of 4 to 6 rps. When in this relatively stable state the sensor in the bomblet commences scanning for a target. On sensing a target a rocket motor in the bomblet is ignited which transforms the bomblet into a projectile with a velocity of more than 2,000 m/s. At this speed the bomblet's HE warhead has enough kinetic energy to penetrate up to 50 mm of armour at an impact angle of 30º. The cluster bomb has a minimum release altitude of 200 m at speeds between 600 and 1,000 km/h.
Operational status
It is believed that the anti-tank cluster bomb is in service with the PLAAF. There are no known exports.
Cluster Bomb
Length: 2.5 m
Body diameter: 410 mm
Tailspan: 0.45 m (closed); 0.72 m (extended)
Lug spacing: 250/356 mm
Weight: 350 kg
Filling: 16 bomblets
Bomblet
Length: 0.22 m
Body diameter: 135 mm
Tailspan: n/k
Lug spacing: n/a
Weight: 4.5 kg
Filling: HE shaped charge
Contractor
China North Industries Corporation (NORINCO) (prime contractor)
Beijing.
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01-17-2006, 04:21
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The munition is a JSOW(Joint Stand Off Weapon), effectionately called a 'Hog' here at work. It is a nasty bugger that I am presently awaiting to attend the FTD course on, GPS guided to its target, and when the submunitions are released, they independantly search for their own targets and with the assistance of its database, it knows where to hit a target to destroy it most effectively. It's almost not even fair anymore
Working with these munitions is one of the few things I still enjoy about my job 
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