Clemency denied

Michelle · 12-12-2005, 15:30

Well, Tookie Williams was denied clemency today, which is a good thing.

They are predicting riots now - that's a bad thing.

My house is in a hot hot hot zone of an area with a large chapter of the Crips present. The area got hit hard during the Rodney King riots.

I am not looking forward to the next 48 hours.

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Warrior-Mentor · 12-12-2005, 16:42

Recommend not poking any hornet's nests in the near future.

Then again, they may keep the rioters away.

Reformed or not, he still killed four people.

rubberneck · 12-12-2005, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Reformed or not, he still killed four people.

Not only did he murder four people in cold blood but you could also argue that the thousands that have died because of the actions of the organization he started should also count against him. If there is justice in the world he will be swimming laps in a lake of buring fire by weeks end.

**Roguish Lawyer** · 12-12-2005, 16:57

Terminated.

jatx · 12-12-2005, 17:30

I'll be in LA tomorrow morning, could get pretty interesting...

Blarney · 12-12-2005, 18:45

I think it's rather audacious that he'd even try for clemency, he killed 4 people. His actions have started gang wars, and he is responsible for the deaths of hundreds, mabye not directly, but had he not created his gang, many might still be alive today and not fueled by such frivolous fighting. He doesn't deserve clemency, no matter how much he tries to attone for what he has done. He was given a sentence and he should accept it like a man and pay what is due. Just my thoughts and opinions.

**The Reaper** · 12-12-2005, 19:01

He was tried by a jury of his peers, and sentenced. Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

His prison record has not exactly been exemplary either, including rape and brutalization of other inmates.

25 years of appeals have changed nothing.

All I can say is, BURN, BABY, BURN!! He is getting off lightly, I would prefer to see him die much more slowly and painfully.

TR

Michelle · 12-12-2005, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Recommend not poking any hornet's nests in the near future.

Then again, they may keep the rioters away.

Agreed Sir W-M. I'm not poking at anything. Although my friend Sir Mick did call me this afternoon and say "pack the dogs and go to a hotel in _____ (the County next door).... to which I replied, "no no. I'm not abandoning my home... I'm staying". :::exasperated sigh on the other end of the phone::: Followed by ::grumble grumble - you're killin me - :::grumble::: Then a super cool conversation about the best way to proceed based on the layout of my house, and 'Shotgun 101' checks, rechecks, dryfire drills, etc.

Me: But Mick.... I've got 3 mags of hollowpoints loaded for the 9

Mick: Forget the 9. Use the 9 to bludgeon someone if you have to. Or to cover reload on the SG. Think SG. The Remmy is your friend.

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Reformed or not, he still killed four people.

As otherse have said here, if you take into account the fact he "co-founded" the crips, he's contributed to far more deaths than four. And he has probably directly committed more than four. Only four could be proven.

Terminate him, yes. And lets hope the "riot" rumors are just that... and that tomorrow morning I will have to be unloading and clearing stuff over my morning cup of coffee, and feeling quite silly.

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sf11b_p · 12-12-2005, 19:12

Nothing silly about being prepared, not having a plan, enough ammo, food or water would be silly.

**The Reaper** · 12-12-2005, 19:15

Look at it like this, most of the people killed in a riot will be bad guys who pick on the wrong people.

You get to play Darwin.

Forget the shotgun, get on the roof with a rifle and chlorinate the gene pool.

TR

Sacamuelas · 12-12-2005, 19:41

If you are actually that close to crip territory, Get out of the area. Playing John Wayne when you are not him can only lead to bad things. One person, even armed to the teeth, can do nothing against a mol. cocktail thrown through your windows. You would suffer the consequences whether you take a few of the scum with you or not!

Risk vs benefit
Remember...Material things... you can replace anything a riot can take from you. You have time to pack, then take the things that mean the most and get out. Your life is worth more than attempting to prove that you are the female equivalent of the Team Sergeant.

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michelle-
gonna stay, stick with the shotgun... have plenty of ammo and someone with you to help you as TR suggested to help chlorinate the gene pool out there.

Good luck and stay safe-
Saca

CPTAUSRET · 12-12-2005, 19:43

Good luck, Michelle:

Screw this A$$HOLE!

I have always known that everything I do may have consequences, some bad...You play, you pay!

He is a murderous, manipulative POS, and the world is better off without him!

Terry

Goggles Pizano · 12-12-2005, 20:05

[QUOTE=Sacamuelas]If you are actually that close to crip territory, Get out of the area. Playing John Wayne when you are not him can only lead to bad things. One person, even armed to the teeth, can do nothing against a mol. cocktail thrown through your windows. You would suffer the consequences whether you take a few of the scum with you or not!

Risk vs benefit
Remember...Material things... you can replace anything a riot can take from you. You have time to pack, then take the things that mean the most and get out. Your life is worth more than attempting to prove that you are the female equivalent of the Team Sergeant.

THIS COMPLETES THE PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE ON PROFESSIONALSOLDIERS.COM ... stay tuned for regular programming

I could not agree more with Saca Michelle! From the thin blue line's perspective you cannot be assisted expeditiously if we have to fight our way to you. LAPD does not have the personnel to extract everyone who thought they could ride out a riot. Pop smoke and haul ass to a safe zone...NOW!
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Smokin Joe · 12-12-2005, 20:26

Two Words:

Layered Defense

I am a big fan of: "standing on the edge of the gene pool with a bottle of cholrine"

But the wise decision is to do as our fair Dentist suggests and haul ass.

Michelle · 12-12-2005, 20:36

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

You get to play Darwin.

Forget the shotgun, get on the roof with a rifle and chlorinate the gene pool.

TR

Need a rifle. Wanna help me go shopping at SHOT TR?

As far as how close I am to Crips territory... I'm in Long Beach.... very large chapter lives here..... I'm, also -15 miles from the edge of Compton.

Sir M's main concern is the "distraction theory". Might not be a threat from the gang faction, but rather the 3 time convicted serial rapist who lives one house down (no I'm not kidding), who might see an "opportunity" that was not otherwise present due to distraction theory. Move in while the PD is otherwise "preoccupied".

So far, all is quiet on the front. I have to wonder if it was all the noise of the SG racking courtesy of Mr. Mick on the phone.

I am no John Wayne. No siree. But there is something really wrong with the idea of my having to leave my HOME because of others. I just wont do it.

As for the fire-threat.... that was first on my mind. I picked up an extinguisher on the way home today.

If I'm going to have "problems" it wont be because I didn't try. Let my obituary say "she fought to the bitter end... crazy girl.... and yes, she thought maybe she could emmulate Team Sergeant in a very small way".

That's SO not such a bad thing. Is it?

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