MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

QRQ 30 · 11-30-2005, 12:43

First off, I wish to wish each and everyone of you a very Merry Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year.

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I started early while I am still in the mood. The rest is a rant on my feelings and you may feel free to skip, Unlike many of the supposed politically correct wimps in the country I will not force my values upon others and don't expect or tolerate others forcing their opinions upon me. Lately, it seems that the only one's who have their rights "protected" are minorities. Not only do I have to respect their values, which I do, but I am forced to lose my values in place of theirs.

Notice, I said Merry CHRISTMAS, not Merry Xmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Hannukah, merry kwanza or anything else. I believe in leaving Christ in Christmas. I heard some disturbing things on the news today in reference to "Holiday Trees",and changing the lyrics to traditional CHRISTMAS carols, e.g. "We Wish You Merry Holidays". CRAP!!! I have a Christmas tree, send Christmas cards, play Christmas carols and have a Nativity set in my front yard. Maybe this will again be acceptable when we become the absolute minorities in this land.

Again: MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

Gypsy · 11-30-2005, 12:50

AMEN to that BMT. Every time someone wishes me a "happy holiday" I look at them like they have 3 heads and say Merry Christmas to you too.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Stargazer · 11-30-2005, 13:33

QRQ 30. I agree. Merry Christmas to you and yours!

Trip_Wire (RIP) · 11-30-2005, 13:37

Yes, I agree 100%

Merry Christmas & A Happy and Prosperous New Year!

longrange1947 · 11-30-2005, 21:26

Merry Christmas to ALL,........

Even the atheists and left libs that hate to hear it.

CoLawman · 11-30-2005, 22:10

Just for clarification, because I am guilty at times of using Xmas.....

The origin of Xmas comes from the Greek language ,which the New Testament was written in. The letter "chi" or symbol very much resembled the english X. The church often referred to Christmas as Xmas as it was more convenient to write and later for typesetting.

There is (substantiation unknown) legend that the X was the symbol for Christ. When christians were afraid of persecution they would refer to Christ in written language by the Greek letter of "chi" which again resembles our X.

This of course is consistent with the persecuted Christians supposed use of the fish symbol as code to identify themselves as Christians. This symbol is now observed on numerous car trunks declaring the owner/occupant as a Christian.

The point being..........if the liberals continue to win these small battles we just might be relegated to scrawling our fish symbols in the sand and referring to Jesus Christ as X. Don't worry the liberals would be unable to break our code, as they generally are not students of history or theology.

longrange1947 · 11-30-2005, 22:18

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Don't worry the liberals would be unable to break our code, as they generally are not students of history or theology.

I don't think that they are students of common sense nor realistic outlook either.

They are fond of dogma and simpering apoligies to those they fear they may have offended.

Personnaly I would rather be thrown into the liberals arena with lions and tigers and bears, Oh My, before hiding from them. Piss on the dim witted idiots. Tell them their village called and they want their idiot back.

cback0220 · 11-30-2005, 22:43

They are offending me by telling me what I am supposed to say. Why does that not matter?

When did the voice of the few become louder than the voice of the many.

aricbcool · 12-01-2005, 00:19

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What pisses me off, is that Christmas is a Federal Holiday! If the libs want to stop saying Merry Christmas, and all that, they need to vote to stop Christmas from being a Federal Holiday. And I hope they do, because every damned one of them would lose their jobs. It's absolutely asinine to pussyfoot around something that our government officially recognizes.
</rant>

That said... Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

--Aric

QRQ 30 · 12-01-2005, 08:50

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Originally Posted by CoLawman

Just for clarification, because I am guilty at times of using Xmas.....

The origin of Xmas comes from the Greek language ,which the New Testament was written in. The letter "chi" or symbol very much resembled the english X. The church often referred to Christmas as Xmas as it was more convenient to write and later for typesetting.

There is (substantiation unknown) legend that the X was the symbol for Christ. When christians were afraid of persecution they would refer to Christ in written language by the Greek letter of "chi" which again resembles our X.

This of course is consistent with the persecuted Christians supposed use of the fish symbol as code to identify themselves as Christians. This symbol is now observed on numerous car trunks declaring the owner/occupant as a Christian.

This is a rationalization after the fact. I went to Catholic schools for 16 years. The first complaints I heard of "Xing" Christ out of Christmas came from the good nuns.

The cross was used by the Christians during Roman persecutions. The Greek symbol for Christ was the Cho Rho. not the Chi alone. http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/...ans/chirho.htm

That fish (icthyous) you see on the backs of cars is an adaptation of the Greek letter alpha which is used as a symbol for Christ.

Spartan359 · 12-01-2005, 08:59

I agree with all of you. Merry Christmas! As a side note I picked up a CD by Larry the Cable Guy (Christmas version) and he goes off on all the topics we have mentioned here. Pretty damn funny stuff.

CoLawman · 12-01-2005, 09:23

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This is a rationalization after the fact. I went to Catholic schools for 16 years. The first complaints I heard of "Xing" Christ out of Christmas came from the good nuns.

I too was a victim of knuckle rapping rulers (12 inch type)

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The cross was used by the Christians during Roman persecutions. The Greek symbol for Christ was the Cho Rho. not the Chi alone. http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/...ans/chirho.htm

Taken from the source you cited:

Chi-Rho Symbol
The Chi-Rho symbol is an anagram of the first two letters of Christ in Greek, the Chi (our CH) and the Rho (our R). These two letters written together stand for Christianity in the Late Roman and Early Medieval periods.

Which is not contrary to my post.

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That fish (icthyous) you see on the backs of cars is an adaptation of the Greek letter alpha which is used as a symbol for Christ.

http://www.cresourcei.org/cyxmas.html

The abbreviation of "Xmas" for Christmas, long reviled by many conservative and Low Church Christians, is not nearly as blasphemous as many contend. Rather than a sacrilegious removal of "Christ" from Christmas and replacing him with an unknown, as some claim, the "Xmas" abbreviation has a long history in the church. In Greek, the language in which the New Testament was first written, "chi" (c or C), which is almost identical to the Roman alphabet "X," is the first letter of the word "Christ" (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS). In fact, the symbol of the fish in the early church came from using the first letter of several titles used for Jesus (Jesus Christ Son of God Savior) that when combined spelled the Greek word for fish (icquV, ichthus).

I just wonder if you and I fall under the conservative and Low Church Christians tag?

QRQ 30 · 12-01-2005, 09:38

Have you noticed that the fish always swims the same way making a lower case "alfa"?

This is part of the Alfa-Omega symbolism. As with most things, I think the symbol comes first and the millions of explanations follow.

Sweetbriar · 12-01-2005, 09:58

If it helps any, I've seen the X used to substitute as a shorthand for the title "Christ" in a number of ways. "Xtian" for Christian, and just "X" when used in contradistinction to the letter Omega (which I don't know how to produce on this keyboard) for God the Father. Look at a Greek icon, those aren't initials, they are the first letter of words in a phrase. If you want to simplify your expression and you're with a group that knows the referent (yeah, that's what I meant to say), then it's no big deal. And if you're offended, then you just got a fantastic opportunity to exercise Xtian love, patience and forgiveness.

Merry Christmas to EVERYONE!!!

**Roguish Lawyer** · 12-01-2005, 11:01

QRQ, you are worse than the department stores!