11-24-2005, 20:58
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Need advice on a new scope...
I'm looking for a new scope for a Sako .270 Win I have. I deer hunt and target shoot with it. Looking at the Zeiss product line in particular. I am open to suggestions from the peanut gallery.
I want quality but I don't have bottomless pockets, ie. I want to keep it real. The $ 1,000.00 price range is where I'm at.
Any PM's, suggestions, links, etc. are welcome from those in the know.
Thanks in advance.
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11-24-2005, 21:33
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Look to the Euro line of Ziess instead fo the US line. It is far more complete and includes Scopes by Hendsolt. Dam fine scopes and some you can have at your price level. Not about to say which would be best for you as I am not sure what type of hunting, time of day, target shooting habits, etc.
Besides what I love you may hate.
Add to the fact that I have a basic yellow streak that prevents me from advising medical personnel.
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11-25-2005, 11:50
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LR,
I've started going through the lineup they have on their web site. I will be shooting paper targets during the day and deer during periods of low light (early morning/late evening) so I'm thinking of something along the lines of a 4X12x44 or 50.
Does any particular model that you can reccommend come to mind?
Thanks,
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11-27-2005, 20:22
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Disregard.
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11-27-2005, 20:39
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I'll step up with a small opinion here and say that for most common purposes, the Leupolds do everything that I need.
For hunting and shooting out to moderate range, they are a good value.
LR loves the Euro glass, Zeiss, Schmidt and Bender, probably owns a Swarovski as well, he must get a commission from them....
TR
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11-28-2005, 03:32
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In addition to the well established manufacturers mentioned, when and if looking for a quality optic with the price range at 1000 $ and under, I would hint to take a look at the Meopta scopes. Based on what I have seen over here, they have a pretty good price vs. quality ratio.
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11-28-2005, 07:40
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TR - That was cold! I do not own a Swarovski. S&B but not a Swarovski. Besides Doc asked about Zeiss and I wanted to let him know that there are other Zeiss out there in the Euro market that are not on the US Zeiss site. I own Leupolds and have pointed alot of guys that way as well. However, is you were going to get a free scope and the choice was a Leupold (any model) or a S&B (any model), what do you think you are going to grab? Be honest now!
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11-28-2005, 16:27
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Doc, I put a new Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50 on a new Remington Sendero this year. I have been a Leupold fan until I purchased this peice of glass. I really like the quality of the optics and it meets my need for the Sendero. It is comparable in price with the Vari-X III line of Leupolds.
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11-28-2005, 18:45
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Thanks gents.
I think I'm going to see what kind of deal I can get on a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50 for the Sako.
I'm also going to look at a new set of rings, perhaps the Sako Optilocks I saw on their web site. I was told years after I bought my Sako in West Germany that I should of had the rings included with the weapon when I bought it. Thanks AAFES.
I'm probably going to start hand-loading my .270's in the near future. If nobody minds, I start a new thread on that endeavor when I get there.
I'll probably put Leupolds on my other 270's. One is a Remington and the other a Browning. I'll have to space out these purchases so as not to arouse the watchful eye of the warden.
Thanks a bunch for the input. It's good to be able to listen to different points of view from guys that know.
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12-08-2005, 22:22
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Doc,
Did you ever send me the info we spoke about on the reticle? I never got the email.
Scotty
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12-08-2005, 23:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc
I'm probably going to start hand-loading my .270's in the near future. If nobody minds, I start a new thread on that endeavor when I get there.
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hmmm...what kind of press are you getting...?
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12-08-2005, 23:19
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I'm really beginning to dig the US Optics scopes. I saw a couple at the SOTIC Competition this week beig used by a 3rd Gp team. There's had the Horus reticle which seem a little "busy" for me, but I think with a mildot reticle it would be "the heat". I was suprised to see how much my M24's Leupold M3LR zero moved when I was in SOTIC. It bumped the reticle 5 right and 7 up if I remember crrectly. A buddy of mine brought an M14 w/ a Sage stock w/ a US Optics scope to Iraq this last trip. He said the gun builder put the US Optics scope on the gun after he smacked it hard up against a pole and said "let goto the range". Apparently he sighted in the gun prior and it still maintained its zero. I've always been a Leupold Vari-X family fan, but I think the next scope I'll jockey for will be the US Optics. Longrange1947 [Mr. B]... have you guys looked at US Optics scopes yet? I keep forgetting to ask ya'll.
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12-09-2005, 06:05
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Doc,
Did you ever send me the info we spoke about on the reticle? I never got the email.
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Sorry for the delay Scotty. PM sent to you.
Thanks,
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12-09-2005, 06:07
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hmmm...what kind of press are you getting...?
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I have never hand-loaded before and open to suggestions in all aspects of this endeavor.
Thanks,
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12-09-2005, 08:25
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Long Tab - Take care with the US Optics scopes. We had two of them for evaluation and neither was spec'ed. The mil dot pattern on one was way off and the other had repeatablility errors. For the price I would do S&B or Zeiss. I am not a fan of US Optics. The leupold with Gen II reticle by Premeir is a fine scope as well and I would look at that before the US Optics.
Also as you noted, the Horus Reticle is very busy and hte observation scope is te same. They are supposed to be use dtogether, but you have trouble seeing trace with the pattern in the scope. Not being able to see trace is a "bad thing" when trying to correct for miss.
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