query on identification of weapon?

Maisy · 09-29-2005, 21:10

NSW police have just seized a heap of illegal weapons and there is a picture of some of the seized items.

I can identify the knives and guns, but am wondering what the thing in the middle is, what the two dragons are meant for and why there seems to be flashlights on the table as well.

Ooooohhh, ok, I got the slingshot now. Still don't know about the rest though.

Can anyone help?

Here is the link to the original story if my attachment doesn't work

NousDefionsDoc · 09-29-2005, 21:25

The two dragons are some kind of knife. The flashlights ain't. Look like stun guns to me. It's mostly crap

aricbcool · 09-29-2005, 21:27

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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

The two dragons are some kind of knife.

Shown here:

bladematrix.tv/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=27315

(add http:// to the url to see it.)

Maisy · 09-29-2005, 21:39

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It's mostly crap

Thanks NDD, Aricbcool.

It's all cheap stuff imported from China in bulk.

The people it would have been sold to wouldn't be the sort that would be interested in quality.

Huey14 · 09-29-2005, 21:51

Your "weapon" laws are more screwed up than ours. I heard you can't legally carry a pocket knife in NSW now!

Maisy · 09-29-2005, 22:31

Nope, that's right. No knives of any kind unless they specifically relate to either your work or your hobby (or your religion!

) and you are on the way to/from it at the time of them finding it. Police have stop and seach rights for anyone they want.

Of course, since they are also severely overworked and understaffed, the chances of you being searched if you are not male, young, loitering in a group and dressed in gang colours, is probably pretty limited.

Having said that, every time I get on a plane I have to empty out a paring knife, a small pair of sewing scissors, a nail-file etc from my bag. I usually have a small heap of "dangerous" items sitting on my table by the time I'm finished.

My OH jokes that even if I ever did get searched, the chances of the nice policeman spotting anything buried in my crap is almost nil.

Edited to add:
And if you think the knife laws are draconian, someday I may share the full story of what I went though last weekend to get the pistol and rifle licence.

Suffice to say I now have this 'orrid feeling I have signed away all rights to my firstborn, and possibly my soul.

Smokin Joe · 09-29-2005, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Maisy

Nope, that's right. No knives of any kind unless they specifically relate to either your work or your hobby (or your religion!

) and you are on the way to/from it at the time of them finding it. Police have stop and seach rights for anyone they want.

Of course, since they are also severely overworked and understaffed, the chances of you being searched if you are not male, young, loitering in a group and dressed in gang colours, is probably pretty limited.

Having said that, every time I get on a plane I have to empty out a paring knife, a small pair of sewing scissors, a nail-file etc from my bag. I usually have a small heap of "dangerous" items sitting on my table by the time I'm finished.

My OH jokes that even if I ever did get searched, the chances of the nice policeman spotting anything buried in my crap is almost nil.

My God! What a horrible way to treat your law abiding citizen's.

The politicians in your society would have heart attack if they saw what I carried on me or in my truck on a daily baises.

Maisy,
Can citizen's in your country carry a Taser (legally)?

Maisy · 09-29-2005, 22:47

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The politicians in your society would have heart attack

Maybe you need to visit???

Could do with a little thinning of the ranks around here. Anyone who would have a heart attack, we didn't need anyway!

Huey14 · 09-29-2005, 23:01

I thought pistols were 100% banned after Port Arthur? Same with semi rifles.

Maisy · 09-29-2005, 23:26

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Maisy,
Can citizen's in your country carry a Taser (legally)?

Smokin Joe, I'm not sure about LEO's in different states, but tasers are not allowed to civilians. Victoria and South Australian LEO's now have them, and I think other state govts are trialling them.

Huey14, only automatics were totally banned. Pistols, rifles, shotties and semi's are still allowed, but under strict rules for their use.

The many and varied reasons for obtaining a licence include target/sport shooting, hunting, primary industry, collecting etc, with different levels of rules applicable to each type of licence.

So the very nice and helpful man reminded me that of course I will also be going rabbit hunting at home in QLD, so will need the hunting licence. The rabbits are really bad out home way...

Then there is the mandatory training course you must attend to qualify, the limits to what you can buy in the first 12 mths of the licence, the cooling off periods, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah...

Huey14 · 09-30-2005, 00:03

Ah I see. There's a crazy theory running around that there was a team at Port Arthur or some such, secret agents from Mossad or the CIA or KFC or something. Crazy theory but interesting none the less LOL.

Maisy · 09-30-2005, 00:11

ROFL, ya gotta be kidding me! I haven't heard that one, must be a NZ thing.

Mossad? CIA? Hahahaha, that's too funny!

I should think a group of Israeli/US gunmen would be a bit noticable running around in a small Tasmanian town, no?

Heck, anyone not directly related to the locals is a bit noticable down there!

Thanks for the Friday afternoon laugh Huey, that was a good one.

Huey14 · 09-30-2005, 00:37

No worries, it made me laugh too

I'll see if I can dig it up- it's by an Aussie actually

Huey14 · 09-30-2005, 00:46

Here's a couple. Apparantly it was a Mossad attack due to the number of headshots or something.

http://www.2012.com.au/DAT.html

http://www.shootersnews.addr.com/Toowoomba.htm

http://judicial-inc.biz/port_arthur_massacre.htm

Maisy · 09-30-2005, 02:56

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I'll see if I can dig it up- it's by an Aussie actually

Well, then it must be true...

Actually I also had a look after you raised this, and came up with some other interesting facts, including that a former Australian Brigadier, Brigadier Ted Serong, also believed it was a professional hit.

He was, among other things, the head of the most highly decorated Australian unit in Vietnam and senior advisor on counterinsurgency to the Commander of the US Military Assistance Command during that time.

Of course, he was also later the patron of an extremist right-wing Australian militia group called Ausi Freedom Scouts (and if you really want a good laugh, google these guys).

However, I come back to one question: Why?

I don't see who it would benefit.

None of the sites I read satisfactorily answered that question for me (although I did particularly find the Mossad theory hilarious. I doubt Australia even blipped on Mossad's screens back then, let alone setting up some convoluted scheme to bring gun control about).

Good Friday giggle though, thanks Huey.