09-17-2005, 01:46
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Halo Jumpers
Photograph of a Seal Halo jumper. I was under the impression this load is quite small.
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09-17-2005, 08:17
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It is.
That is a three day-assault pack, not a full ruck.
Loads should be driven by mission requirements.
No other SOF unit launches on missions with the duration of SF.
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09-17-2005, 08:32
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Picture of a 1/6th scale toy figure? I think so... 
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09-17-2005, 09:16
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Originally Posted by Footmobile
Picture of a 1/6th scale toy figure? I think so... |
Judge for yourselves. 
http://www.oldjoeinfirmary.com/oji-ht4.htm#2
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09-17-2005, 09:36
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Originally Posted by FrontSight
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A full ruck would have a much bigger back part ?
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yes, and the souls of his boot would have sunken into the concrete a 1/2 inch from the weight.
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09-17-2005, 10:35
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Thats pretty funny and some darned good detail on an action figure. The pack is actually a Lightfighter RAID.
Frontsight, here is one of the 1/6th action figured with a large Ruck.
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09-17-2005, 11:57
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Is that a chick in the Marine figure (3rd FSSG)?
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09-17-2005, 12:01
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Originally Posted by FrontSight
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A full ruck would have a much bigger back part ?
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You need to do some research.
He is jumping a front mounted assault pack. And his weapon is not yet rigged.
A full sized ruck would be much larger overall, and would ride lower.
War story:
I stood on the ramp of a C-141 over Grenada for a HALO jump with a 55 lb. parachute rig, a 135 lb. ruck, a 30 lb. vest, and an 8 lb. rifle. That was among the lightest rucks on the team, as we normally tried to keep the loaded jumper weights as close as possible.
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09-17-2005, 12:02
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Is that a chick in the Marine figure (3rd FSSG)?
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I believe so sir. Judging by the photos behind the toy and looking at the toy itself it looks to be an XY. Or could be a gender confused troop given the lipstick. Very tactical. 
Why?
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09-17-2005, 12:04
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War story:
I stood on the ramp of a C-141 over Grenada for a HALO jump with a 55 lb. parachute rig, a 135 lb. ruck, a 30 lb. vest, and an 8 lb. rifle. That was among the lightest rucks on the team, as we normally tried to keep the loaded jumper weights as close as possible.
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And?
The rest of the story!!!!
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09-17-2005, 13:28
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They made a toy version of That Java Dude!
As for the USMC FSSG figure, she's gonna have some fun jumping with those shears and chemlights just stuck in her PALS webbing.
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09-17-2005, 13:31
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Originally Posted by CoLawman
And?
The rest of the story!!!!
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We were shooting for a soccer field between the mountains and the Caribbean. A highway and parallel power lines along the beach further complicated the jump. The DZ was literally less than 150 yards wide, with little room for error.
There were low clouds and we made at least four passes starting at 12,000 feet with my Team Sergeant trying to see land anywhere, while we stood at the hinge of the C-141's ramp. We finally broke through at 2500 feet, by which point, we were crowding the ramp.
I was pumped and tired of standing around, so I yelled to the TS, "F**k it, let's go anyway!" He gives me a non-standard slow shake of his index finger before giving the "No Jump" signal of a head shake and a hand across the throat.
By the time we got on the ground, I had had sufficient time to think about the wisdom of jumping with an overload of combat equipment 1000 feet below our normal OPENING altitude.
I told the TS, "Hmm, thanks for making the right call there, Mike."
He says, "No worries, Boss, that is what good SF NCOs are for, to keep you young guys out of trouble."
I learned a lot from that man, and the rest of the team.
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09-17-2005, 13:36
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Originally Posted by Razor
As for the USMC FSSG figure, she's gonna have some fun jumping with those shears and chemlights just stuck in her PALS webbing. |
Turns into one of those "explodes on opening" figures with all of the loose gear detaching itself and littering the DZ.
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09-17-2005, 17:14
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
We were shooting for a soccer field between the mountains and the Caribbean. A highway and parallel power lines along the beach further complicated the jump. The DZ was literally less than 150 yards wide, with little room for error.
There were low clouds and we made at least four passes starting at 12,000 feet with my Team Sergeant trying to see land anywhere, while we stood at the hinge of the C-141's ramp. We finally broke through at 2500 feet, by which point, we were crowding the ramp.
I was pumped and tired of standing around, so I yelled to the TS, "F**k it, let's go anyway!" He gives me a non-standard slow shake of his index finger before giving the "No Jump" signal of a head shake and a hand across the throat.
By the time we got on the ground, I had had sufficient time to think about the wisdom of jumping with an overload of combat equipment 1000 feet below our normal OPENING altitude.
I told the TS, "Hmm, thanks for making the right call there, Mike."
He says, "No worries, Boss, that is what good SF NCOs are for, to keep you young guys out of trouble."
I learned a lot from that man, and the rest of the team.
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Thanks! Your jump could have added to the tragedy of the SEALS that day.
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