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Old 09-14-2005, 14:17   #1
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Thumbs down Judge Nixes Pledge of Allegiance.

Ain't this some shit!!

<http://treets.thecarolinachannel.com/svc/lnk.cfm?l=59749665&t=1>

If you can link to the poll you will see a 92/7 disagreement to the decision here. The numbers are probably reversed in Kalifornia!!
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Old 09-14-2005, 20:22   #2
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Leave my country the hell alone. I'll recite the Pledge of Allegiance and pray till the day I die. If you don't like it leave MY country. All because an atheist decided he didn't like the words "Under God". Throw that bitch out a plane with no chute at 10,000 feet and I bet he converts. What a bunch of shit.
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Old 09-14-2005, 21:37   #3
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Devil's advocate: This country made it through two world wars and the Great Depression without 'under God' in the Pledge. Do we really need those two words to express our support and allegiance to the nation?

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Old 09-14-2005, 23:12   #4
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Devil's advocate: This country made it through two world wars and the Great Depression without 'under God' in the Pledge. Do we really need those two words to express our support and allegiance to the nation?

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http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm

"In 1892 Francis Bellamy was also a chairman of a committee of state superintendents of education in the National Education Association. As its chairman, he prepared the program for the public schools' quadricentennial celebration for Columbus Day in 1892. He structured this public school program around a flag raising ceremony and a flag salute - his 'Pledge of Allegiance.'"

"His original Pledge read as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.' He considered placing the word, 'equality,' in his Pledge, but knew that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans. [ * 'to' added in October, 1892. ]"

"In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was ignored."

"In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer."

Just one more salvo at religion.
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:51   #5
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The day this country is no longer 'Under God' is the day we give up our national sovereignty to the UN.

I love the way these people with the 'help' of the main stream press stealth this crap through the system. If you don't want to say 'Under God', guess what?...........DON'T FREAKIN' OPEN YOUR MOUTH! How freakin' hard is that!?!?
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:57   #6
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Next will be the money?

Of course if you don't like the word "God" on your money give it to me.
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:05   #7
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Red Skelton, famous comedian and actor, gave a great speach about the meaning of the Pledge and the phrase 'Under God'. Here's the link:

http://www.poofcat.com/july.html

No one is made to say either 'Under God' or even recite the Pledge. Let's have enough courtesy to allow those who DO want to say it to exercise THEIR right to Freedom of Speech and Religion. These atheists are encroaching on the freedom of others now because they simply can't handle differing beliefs of others and their free exercise (or USED to be free exercise) of those beliefs. This Newdow guy and these two families represent the exact opposite of what our Founding Fathers intended and this judge should be removed from the bench for personal judgement and not interpretation of the law. If he believes the Pledge is 'coercive' I think there could be a strong argument then for the liberal 'coerciveness' of today's public school curriculum.
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