06-30-2005, 15:16
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TMP Trauma Pack
Just saw the TMP Tac-Pack Trauma Packs at a recent event and picked up a couple.
The is an incredibly compact vacuum-packed, foil-wrapped, single use trauma kit that seems to me to be pretty complete, for its size.
The pack, pictured below is overall 8.25"x4.75"x1, but it folds down to 5.5"x3.5"x1".
The Standard Trauma Pack contains Latex Free Gloves, an abdominal bandage, 2 4x3s, a compression wrap, a surgical mask, Tegaderm, and tape. Once you take it out though, no way to store it that compactly again.
The Advanced adds a Tourniquet and an Angiocath.
I would give one of these to everyone on my team. Enough to help, not enough to get you into too much trouble.
www.traumapacks.com
Hope this helps.
TR
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06-30-2005, 17:07
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Neat!
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06-30-2005, 17:12
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we used to carry an additional ammo pouch as a first aid kit...looks like a couple of these would fit...yep, i think one or two per man should be issued...
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07-01-2005, 16:29
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myself and the 2 other tactical medicial docs I work with just submitted an article on vacuum packing our supplies,i.e., little trauma packs, IV starter kits (has 250mL bag saline, rubber tourniquet, alcohol prep pads, 2x2 gauze, op-site clear dressing, 18G IV set, etc, all in one neat vacuum sealed/shrunken bag.
Not a new concept, just a new package and good marketing on their part. Ours is customizable to each operator/operation. You guys should try it; I use a Kenmore kitchen vacuum sealer in the 5 inch wide bags and there you have it....home made kits.
You're welcome for the 'secret' .........
there are pics of the loose items then sealed packs
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07-02-2005, 04:38
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look good swat surgeon, i whent to the local bucther and gave him a six pack. he and i pack up my sets.
i still take sand out of my bag from iraq a year ago, so the packing is good to keep thing clearn and dry.
i dont have pic of set use/opened it all in iraq.
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07-02-2005, 08:06
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swatsurgeon:
Yours look good too, just a bit advanced for the less well trained.
The Tac-Packs are put together by a buddy who is the Chief of Trauma at an NYC hospital and seem pretty well geared to ABC for a layman.
The price, IIRC, is less than $20 each, and it is handy to have all of that stuff together in one compact package when you need it. Frankly, if you are not a medic, you are unlikely to haul anything much larger or bulkier except for SF and those truly dedicated. I did carry a personal aid kit with meds, a few instruments, and lots of IVs, but in most states, the Good Samaritan statutes end when you start puncturing the skin of a patient.
The key is to have what you are competent to use with you when you need it.
TR
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07-02-2005, 11:35
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"The key is to have what you are competent to use with you when you need it."
TR,
now that statement reveals true wisdom...well said.
My overall point is that kits can be 'made to order' right in your own home...if you have the basic supplies.
ss
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(adapted from: Sherwin B. Nuland, MD, surgeon and author: The Wisdom of the Body, 1997 )
Education is the anti-ignorance we all need to better treat our patients. ss, 2008.
The blade is so sharp that the incision is perfect. They don't realize they've been cut until they're out of the fight: A Surgeon Warrior. I use a knife to defend life and to save it. ss (aka traumadoc)
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12-02-2005, 19:34
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Gents good info for us non-qual (91 Series or 18D's).
I recently started working part time at an indoor range and had discussed with one of the managers about trauma kits. Ironically, next day we had a gentleman take the end of his finger off with a .38 snubby. Same day had an individual take the recoil of a 45-70 flat to the face. Looks like he went toe to toe with a pro boxer. 
I'm pretty basic on skills from basic training and CLS about 3 years ago.
What would you add to the TMP Trauma Pack to better serve range ops? Only thing I can think of would be a few pouches of Quik Clot and a CPR mask. Bear in mind that this is only to stabilize (minus fluids) until EMS arrives. Money is tight but could be scraped together for this need. Hopefully we don't have to use them all to often.
Thanks gents.
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12-02-2005, 21:23
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Quick Clot
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Originally Posted by jbour13
What would you add to the TMP Trauma Pack to better serve range ops? Only thing I can think of would be a few pouches of Quik Clot and a CPR mask.
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Hmmmmm.....
Quick Clot=Badness
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12-02-2005, 22:21
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Thanks, TR. Those look very interesting. Any idea which TQ they're using?
Hah, this is great. This may be the first time that I know about a really useful bit of gear before Gomez. 
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12-03-2005, 00:38
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What would you add to the TMP Trauma Pack to better serve range ops? Only thing I can think of would be a few pouches of Quik Clot and a CPR mask.
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More Kerlix and more compression wrap.
An IV set, if you know how to use one.
No idea which TQ, but I would get the best one I could find.
TR
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12-03-2005, 19:16
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What's the difference between a blow-out kit and the Trauma Packs that are being discussed?
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12-03-2005, 19:25
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None. Blow out kit is a Brit term. Jarheads call them FAKs. I call it "My Shit" as in "BRING ME MY SHIT NOW!" Give it a name.
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12-03-2005, 19:30
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None. Blow out kit is a Brit term. Jarheads call them FAKs. I call it "My Shit" as in "BRING ME MY SHIT NOW!" Give it a name.
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Thanks.
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12-03-2005, 22:11
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
More Kerlix and more compression wrap.
An IV set, if you know how to use one.
No idea which TQ, but I would get the best one I could find.
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TR,
In the civic sense as soon as you do any invasive procedure without a license you'd risk additional trouble legally. The whole good samaritan thing goes out the window. TQ's are bad because we only have 2 or 3 employees that understand how to appropriately apply a TQ.
Appreciate the insight gents.
Thanks much.
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