02-25-2004, 17:47
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February 16, 2004
Dear Mayor Newsom (gavin.newsom@sfgov.org), Judge Warren (wsuperiorct@sftc.org) and Acting Chief Fong (sfpdpbaf@pacbell.net),
Mayor, I see you are authorizing city employees to perform homosexual marriages, Judge Warren, you are allowing them to proceed, and Chief Fong, you are allowing California law, as enacted by a vote of the people, to be publicly and repeatedly broken without making any arrests.
I'm not commenting on that issue, per se, so much as observing that you are all three instigating and abetting the violation of that law.
Judge Warren, you went so far as to state that you couldn't issue a restraining order to halt the marriages because, as Reuters reported, "there was not enough evidence presented showing that immediate damage would be done by allowing them."
Which leaves me with an interesting dilemma.
You see, I also belong to a group that is forced by social prejudices to keep a low profile—often times to hide my choices and practices lest I suffer disapproval and ultimately, life-threatening persecution by the state.
I am a gun owner and I live a gun owner life style.
I don't know if I was born with a tendency to be this way, or if it was an acquired disposition. All I know is, I don't see why I should be forced to change. Truth be known, I like owning guns, and am happy with who I am. I hope I suffer no repercussions by "coming out of the safe," but I just can't hide the truth any longer.
We gun owners have been living and working among you. Our kids go to school with yours. We may be your doctor, or minister, or your child's teacher. We may even work in city administration, or the courts, or on the police force. And we are sick of being abused for simply being who we are, all because of hoplophobic* prejudice and fear. We don't see any reason why we should have to put up with it any more.
Which brings me back to my dilemma and the reason I am writing you.
You have shown progressive thinking and tolerance for that which the majority condemns. So I was thinking of coming up to San Francisco and exercising my right to keep and bear arms, maybe showing up at City Hall with a state-banned AR-15 and a couple 30-round magazines, and also carrying several pistols concealed without a permit.
Yes, I know, it will be a violation of California laws, but you've shown that you're willing to disregard those when it serves your goals. And because I am a peaceable citizen, I should easily meet Judge Warren's criterion that no immediate damage would be done by allowing this.
So what do you think, if I visit your city and proudly display my lifestyle choices, can I count on your support? As a private citizen, don't I have as much right to disregard laws I find reprehensible as you public officials? Isn't that what equality is supposed to be all about, where no class of citizen enjoys privileges and immunities not extended to all?
How about it? You wouldn't have me arrested, would you?
Please let me know if I have your support.
Sincerely,
David Codrea
codrea4@adelphia.net
* Credit and gratitude to the peerless Col. Jeff Cooper for coining this term.
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02-25-2004, 17:48
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The San Francisco Police Department has launched an investigation, the Redondo Beach Police Department has paid Mr. Codrea a visit, a Canadian anti-gun-rights nut requested that he use his gun to remove himself from the gene pool and reported him to the FBI.
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He knows only The Cause.
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02-25-2004, 17:54
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Don't know whether to laugh or shake my hand.....the wonderful PRK.......
At least we have great weather!!
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02-25-2004, 18:21
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I like this guy!
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02-25-2004, 18:21
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He has my vote!
Can we register all homosexuals, tax them, sue the maunfacturers(?), require them to be licensed, limit their right to gather and enjoy themselves, lambaste them in the media, and create a branch of the Federal government solely focused on ensuring their compliance with 10,000 laws and regulations, upon penalty of death and incineration?
Hmm....
TR
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02-25-2004, 22:02
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LOL
They would probably call out the SWAT Team if you were spotted smoking a cigarette on the sidewalk in front of City Hall.
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02-25-2004, 22:44
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Quote:
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
The San Francisco Police Department has launched an investigation, the Redondo Beach Police Department has paid Mr. Codrea a visit, a Canadian anti-gun-rights nut requested that he use his gun to remove himself from the gene pool and reported him to the FBI.
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Now that is messed up! Are we outlawing political satire as a form of protest now? When did the world become such a warm fuzzy PC place? Oh wait... that is only in California.
Now, I remember why I moved out of the land of the fruits and nuts.
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02-25-2004, 23:12
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I spent three weeks down in California (San Francisco & then Torrance) visiting relatives that now live down there a few months ago...I have zero desire to go back.
My one-word opinion of that state as a whole after visiting: Ridiculous.
The letter is great. The fact that they actually investigated just reinforces my opinion though.
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02-26-2004, 00:14
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Yeah, the politicians and the liberals and hollyweird are all wackos...but there are still plenty of good folks there still.
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02-26-2004, 00:26
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Oh, absolutely. No problem with (most of) the folks there at all. The state in a general sense just makes me shake my head and think of something else.
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02-26-2004, 13:30
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A clearly agitated man writes a letter to several government officials saying he was thinking of coming to their offices with a rifle and several concealed pistols, and the police investigate it? What, exactly, would you expect them to do? Of course they knew it was likely just satire, but prudence dictates checking it out anyway. Was he arrested for threatening a government official? Were his weapons seized by the Redondo Beach PD? Is he facing charges?
Consider also that these officials have likely received actual death threats since they decided to forswear their oaths and play political martyrs. While Mr. Codrea's tone was less threatening and more satirical, so his intent to threaten is less clear, he also communicated a more realistic capability to threaten.
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02-26-2004, 13:35
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He didn't threaten them, he asked them if they would arrest him for exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.
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He knows only The Cause.
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02-26-2004, 13:37
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My advice to him would be to eat a lot of junk food, especially Twinkies before going down there.
Then he cannot be held responsible for his actions.
I thought the point of his letter was that the officials were not just ignoring the breaking of state law, they were aiding and abetting.
Or is a public official helping people break laws they disagree with like jury nullification.
TR
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02-26-2004, 13:46
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Rosie's getting married, so that makes it legitimate.
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02-26-2004, 14:09
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Quote:
Originally posted by Airbornelawyer
Consider also that these officials have likely received actual death threats since they decided to forswear their oaths and play political martyrs. While Mr. Codrea's tone was less threatening and more satirical, so his intent to threaten is less clear, he also communicated a more realistic capability to threaten.
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Martyrs? How about criminals or better yet miscreants? Is it now in vogue to break the law?
You make it sound as if they are embarking on a brilliant endeavor.
Even a simple layman such as myself can deduce that laws were broken. What next social freedom for NAMBLA?
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