06-07-2005, 18:03
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Recruiters on Campus
Law Students, Medal of Honor Recipients File Brief in Military Recruiting Case
(CNSNews.com) - A group of law students and Medal of Honor recipients have filed a friend-of-the-court brief calling on the U.S. Supreme Court to reverse an appeals court decision that struck down an amendment requiring colleges and universities to provide equal access to military recruiters as a condition of receiving federal funds. The brief said that if the ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit is allowed to stand, faculty members would be able to prevent "all students - the primary beneficiaries of academic freedom - from exercising their First Amendment right to listen, on campus, to the message of the military.""
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06-07-2005, 23:44
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What, they can't afford to go to a recruiting office?? The damn recruiters will pick you up and drop you off, for crying out loud!! 
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06-08-2005, 06:22
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Well, if they ban recruiters, they should, by the same token, prevent the "anti-war" protesters and the free-basing liberal protests that occur. That being said, what do you think would happen if schools started doing that?
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06-08-2005, 07:00
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Well, if they ban recruiters, they should, by the same token, prevent the "anti-war" protesters and the free-basing liberal protests that occur. That being said, what do you think would happen if schools started doing that?
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Maybe they'd go to class and learn something.
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06-08-2005, 07:41
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Maybe they'd go to class and learn something.
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Class Schmlass its not really all that important although for some crazy reason it costs tens of thousands of dollars a year. 
Anyways about this whole recruiters on campus thing in my opinion the reason its so important is because they give kids who wouldn't think about joining the military an access to information and benefits. Plus it gives kids who mostly only see one side of US politics the ability to talk and meet some of those people that are on the other side.
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06-08-2005, 08:46
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Remember hearing this on NPR, and finally located the brief.
"The U.S. Defense Department has denied federal funding to two law schools (William Mitchell School of Law, and Vermont Law School because they do not allow military recruiters on campus. Now the U.S. House of Representatives is putting forward a new law would require the Secretary of Defense to compile a list of colleges and universities that don't allow the military to recruit on campus."
Time to tighten the pursetrings on some of the big boys (Yale, Harvard, etc. ) in my opinion.
Just my .02
Edited to add link to the audio portion of the NPR article.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4675926
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06-08-2005, 09:04
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It's not like the pinkos are forced off to war with a rifle and a k-pot... As American citizens with no draft in effect, their argument about having recruiters on campuses can't really be substantiated IMO.
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06-08-2005, 10:50
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Remember that this all started at Harvard because the US Military discriminates against Gays.
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06-08-2005, 16:59
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Remember that this all started at Harvard because the US Military discriminates against Gays.
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Please explain your post Sir. I want to make sure that I don't have the wrong intent before I post a reply.
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06-08-2005, 20:37
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Remember that this all started at Harvard because the US Military discriminates against Gays.
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The US military doesn't discriminate against gay people. Many gays are currently serving.
The military, IAW a law passed by Congress, requires that gay personnel do not engage in acts in violation of the UCMJ, and keep their status to themselves. "Don't ask, don't tell."
The majority of homosexual discharges are granted to initial entry soldiers at a few posts who discover their orientation right after they discover that the military is heavy on authority figures, intolerant of nonconformists, and real training is a lot harder than it looks in the video games.
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06-08-2005, 21:03
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...who discover their orientation right after they discover that the military is heavy on authority figures, intolerant of nonconformists, and real training is a lot harder than it looks in the video games.
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ahem...as a non-conformist, i have to say that the Army is more tolerant of nonconformists than they are deviants...
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06-08-2005, 21:46
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ahem...as a non-conformist, i have to say that the Army is more tolerant of nonconformists than they are deviants...
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ROTFLMAO 
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06-08-2005, 22:20
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ahem...as a non-conformist, i have to say that the Army is more tolerant of nonconformists than they are deviants...
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As a deviant who can conform, I find that the Army is quite tolerant.
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06-09-2005, 08:00
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My intent of my post is that because the Military has the policy of "Don't ask, Don't tell,” the military is a prejudiced institution and Harvard won’t allow prejudice institutions to recruit on their campus. Even though you and I know that we only kick out a rare few on this policy, Harvard still uses it as the base of their policy. Then other schools jumped on the bandwagon and before we know it, it’s going to the high courts. My hippie High School wouldn’t allow recruiters on it’s campus well before this ever happened at Harvard, but know one cared and know one advertised the issue. Harvard was trying to make a political statement with their policy.
I hope that the Supreme Court hears the case and rules on the Military’s side.
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06-09-2005, 09:37
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Originally Posted by tyrsnbdr
My intent of my post is that because the Military has the policy of "Don't ask, Don't tell,” the military is a prejudiced institution and Harvard won’t allow prejudice institutions to recruit on their campus. Even though you and I know that we only kick out a rare few on this policy, Harvard still uses it as the base of their policy. Then other schools jumped on the bandwagon and before we know it, it’s going to the high courts. My hippie High School wouldn’t allow recruiters on it’s campus well before this ever happened at Harvard, but know one cared and know one advertised the issue. Harvard was trying to make a political statement with their policy.
I hope that the Supreme Court hears the case and rules on the Military’s side.
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I wonder if Harvard still lets Microsoft recruit on their campus? I mean they're prejudiced too right?
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