Vegan Vacation

[Roguish Lawyer]

So we just got back from a vacation in Central Oregon, visiting my totally vegan Aunt. "Vegan," for those of you who don't know, basically means you are an incredibly strict vegetarian -- no animals or animal by-products (eggs, milk, etc.) whatsoever.

So I decided to do some vegan cooking for her and her husband. If there is interest in what I made, I will post some recipes.

[NousDefionsDoc]

I didn't know you are a vegan. I'd be interested in the recipes.

[lksteve]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

"Vegan," for those of you who don't know, basically means you are an incredibly strict vegetarian -- no animals or animal by-products (eggs, milk, etc.) whatsoever.

so, do vegans breast feed their young?

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

I didn't know you are a vegan. I'd be interested in the recipes.

LOL -- yeah, that's why the first thing we had when we got home was bacon-wrapped filet mignon! Like Razor, I am a card-carrying vagitarian.

I'll post recipes tomorrow.

Originally Posted by lksteve

so, do vegans breast feed their young?

Another like lksteve's question:

Would a vegetarian eat a carnivorous plant?

FrontSight

[Jack Moroney (RIP)]

RL as I alluded to in my PM. You are now a moving target

Jack Moroney-wondering if vegans are the "sea" in which the PETA and ELF guerrillas swim

[lksteve]

Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

-wondering if vegans are the "sea" in which the PETA and ELF guerrillas swim

i know some (a hazard of living near the left coast)...my current, soon-to-be-ex employer is a vegan, although he occassionally backslides for a pizza or piece of chicken...his reasons are health based and he has no politics associated with his choice of menus...

i know several that are politically motivated, PETA and ELF wannabes, if nothing else...some of them are 'active', attending fund raisers, etc...it was toward one of them that i addressed the breast feeding question...her answer was that lesbians didn't have that problem...

the short answer is, in my opinion (seldom humble), that many vegans are principle constituents of the extreme left, and that would include PETA, ELF, and others...those that are non-political, while a significant number, do not contribute to a balanced world view on the part of many...their silence is deafening...

[Peregrino]

Originally Posted by lksteve

--- politically motivated, PETA and ELF wannabes, if nothing else...some of them are 'active', attending fund raisers, etc...it was toward one of them that i addressed the breast feeding question...her answer was that lesbians didn't have that problem...

the short answer is, in my opinion (seldom humble), that many vegans are principle constituents of the extreme left, and that would include PETA, ELF, and others...those that are non-political, while a significant number, do not contribute to a balanced world view on the part of many...their silence is deafening...

SO - Are we at war with Vegans? (Couldn't resist!) Peregrino

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

SO - Are we at war with Vegans? (Couldn't resist!) Peregrino

There is only one place more dangerous than being between rosie odonnell and an “all you can eat” buffet and that is between me and my plate full of tasty, burnt, dead animals and as long as that delicate balance is upheld there will be peace on the planet.

[Airbornelawyer]

Originally Posted by lksteve

i know some (a hazard of living near the left coast)...my current, soon-to-be-ex employer is a vegan, although he occassionally backslides for a pizza or piece of chicken...his reasons are health based and he has no politics associated with his choice of menus...

i know several that are politically motivated, PETA and ELF wannabes, if nothing else...some of them are 'active', attending fund raisers, etc...it was toward one of them that i addressed the breast feeding question...her answer was that lesbians didn't have that problem...

the short answer is, in my opinion (seldom humble), that many vegans are principle constituents of the extreme left, and that would include PETA, ELF, and others...those that are non-political, while a significant number, do not contribute to a balanced world view on the part of many...their silence is deafening...

If "his reasons are health based" then he is not properly a vegan. Veganism proclaims itself to be a philosophy of reverence for life, seeking to avoid cruelty toward and exploitation of animals. The memorandum of association (the UK equivalent of articles of incorporation) of the Vegan Society defines it thusly:

[T]he word "veganism" denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment.

In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

And the American Vegan Society describes "vegan" thusly:

Veganism is compassion in action. It is a philosophy, diet, and lifestyle.

Veganism is an advanced way of living in accordance with Reverence for Life, recognizing the rights of all living creatures, and extending to them the compassion, kindness, and justice exemplified in the Golden Rule.

Vegans exclude flesh, fish, fowl, dairy products (animal milk, butter, cheese, yogurt, etc.), eggs, honey, animal gelatin, and all other foods of animal origin.

Veganism also excludes animal products such as leather, wool, fur, and silk in clothing, upholstery, etc. Vegans usually make efforts to avoid the less-than-obvious animal oils, secretions, etc., in many products such as soaps, cosmetics, toiletries, household goods and other common commodities.

Reasons for Veganism:
An equitable, ethical relationship between human and other living creatures
The physiological human design
An enlightened concept of repairing and maintaining health
Practical solutions to the population explosion
Spiritual development

Of course, besides being soft-headed left-wingers, most vegans are hypocrites. There are hundreds of millions of rats, rabbits, other rodents, foxes, snakes, worms, insects and other animals killed as part of the cultivation of crops.

There is no reason to treat animals cruelly, but humans are part of nature, and in nature, animals consume other animals.

[jon448]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

SO - Are we at war with Vegans? (Couldn't resist!) Peregrino

We might not be at war with them but sometimes they think they're at war with us. I love it when I get evil looks in the dining hall from the dirty hippies at my school while I'm eating a nice steak and cheese sub or something like that. Oh well thats what I get for being from and going to school in Mass.

[504PIR]

IMHO Vegans ARE FUN!!! When I mention I'm a conservative, gun-toting, hunting, fishing, cattle rancher who does taxidermy in my spare time...iit gets good!! Just watchem boil!!

Many get angry easily and you can get them stirred up at the drop of a hamburger patty on a hot grill!!!

Plus they tend be kinda "weak" have yet to see a athletic vegan in the gym, dojo or winning any race.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Vegan Roasted Corn Chowder

Note: This is much better with bacon.

6 small sweet peppers, assorted colors, finely diced
1/2 large onion, finely diced
1 large red potato, diced
3 cups vegetarian chicken-flavored broth
3 tablespoons nutritional yeast (divided, see below)
1 teaspoon salt
2 teaspoons Spike (a store-bought herb blend)
5 ears corn in husks
2 cups soy milk
1 tbsp crushed red pepper

Soak corn in water for 20 minutes. Roast on cookie sheet at 350 degrees for 25 minutes, turning once. Remove husks and cut off the corn kernels, reserving for later use.

Sautee the onions, sweet peppers and crushed red pepper in olive oil until the onions are translucent. Add the potato and continue to sautee for five more minutes, stirring often to prevent sticking.

Add the chicken-flavored broth, two tablespoons of the nutritional yeast, salt, and Spike. Simmer for approximately twenty minutes, until the vegetables are completely cooked.

Meanwhile, blend the soy milk, one cup of the corn and the remaining yeast in a blender until absolutely smooth and creamy.

Just before serving, add the remaining corn to the broth and vegetables and simmer 4-5 additional minutes until the corn is hot. Then add the corn/soy milk mixture to the soup and heat through. Do not boil, as the “cream” will tend to separate if you do.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Portobello Wellington

3 tablespoons olive oil
4 shallots, minced
2 large leeks, minced
6 cloves garlic, minced
6 large button mushrooms, finely chopped
fresh thyme to taste (approximately 4 sprigs)
10 shiitake mushrooms, finely chopped, without stems
2 chives, finely chopped

4 large portobello mushroom caps
2 teaspoons Dijon mustard
phyllo dough


Saute shallots, leeks, and garlic in 1 tbsp olive oil until translucent (about 5 minutes). Add the button mushrooms and about half the thyme. Cook until the mushroom liquid has evaporated and the mixture is just moist (about 10 minutes). Transfer mixture to a bowl. Add remaining olive oil and saute the shittakes. Cook for 5 minutes, then transfer to the bowl with the rest of the mixture. Add chives and black pepper and stir.

Place Portobello caps on a greased cookie sheet. Brush on the mustard and add the remaining thyme and black pepper. Spoon topping mixture onto each Portobello cap. Drape a few sheets of phyllo dough over the top (note: you are really supposed to use puff pastry, but I bought phyllo dough instead and it was still good, maybe even better). Brush top with melted soy margarine if you want to. Bake in a preheated oven at 425 degrees until the pastry looks done (about 20 minutes).

[Bravo1-3]

If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?

Note: There is no such thing as "Soy Milk." It is Soy JUICE, unless they have developed some kind of genetic mutant strain of soy bean that has teats.