Video of US Arty

ZoneOne · 04-01-2005, 14:09

I found a video on Militaryphotos.net, rather interesting.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ic.php?t=42778
Edit -- this should work

scroll through the thread to about the last page or so and find a link.

Shows Iraqi's firing off rockets, with what looks to be by remote, and then some U.S. arty coming down on their position.

If this is the wrong area, will someone kindly move it.

brewmonkey · 04-01-2005, 14:54

For those interested in viewing it but not digging through all that BS they have here it is. It is on my server so no worrying about who is tracking what from where.

ZoneOne · 04-01-2005, 15:32

Thx Brew, I was curious about someone hosting it to make it a lot easier.

Thx

jbour13 · 04-01-2005, 16:45

Round number 5 damn near hit the camera! To bad there were no goons hanging around to receive the counterfire.

I wonder if the inbound was 105mm or 155mm. Either way it was pretty good splashes.

brewmonkey · 04-01-2005, 17:42

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Originally Posted by jbour13

Round number 5 damn near hit the camera! To bad there were no goons hanging around to receive the counterfire.

I wonder if the inbound was 105mm or 155mm. Either way it was pretty good splashes.

I was thinking it was either 105 or 4.2" mortars. The splash just did not seem to be large enough for anything bigger. I would also think that the time between the report and splash suggested that whoever was doing the shooting was fairly close and the time between each round was a bit long for it to be a howitzer battery, so I was thinking it was a single 4.2 track.

Either way it was to bad that all they did was throw up some dirt.

There was a video early into OEF where they had a couple of guys in a HMMWV filming something when they started taking incoming. Within a few bits the allies started firing counter battery and the whole hillside was torn part. I will have to see if I can find that one.

**Ambush Master** · 04-01-2005, 18:38

On the Rockets, the 4th one detonates rather than launches. Look at the Black/DK Gray smoke instead of white !! The distance is further than you would think, the round is travelling close to the speed of sound, so it sounds like it's closer than it is. That is not a 4 deuce !!! That is a 155 Battery using a Counter-Battery System that calls the shots. 4.2 does not fly that flat and that round is kicking up a lot more that they would !! A 4.2 and 105 are actually the same Projectile, just that the 4.2 has the base for the charges and ignition.

brewmonkey · 04-01-2005, 19:21

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Originally Posted by Ambush Master

On the Rockets, the 4th one detonates rather than launches. Look at the Black/DK Gray smoke instead of white !! The distance is further than you would think, the round is travelling close to the speed of sound, so it sounds like it's closer than it is. That is not a 4 deuce !!! That is a 155 Battery using a Counter-Battery System that calls the shots. 4.2 does not fly that flat and that round is kicking up a lot more that they would !! A 4.2 and 105 are actually the same Projectile, just that the 4.2 has the base for the charges and ignition.

Well now we all know why the made me a grunt and not a gun bunny!

**Ambush Master** · 04-01-2005, 19:32

When I went through Training Group, the 11 series came out "Dual" qualified 11B/11C Light and Heavy Weapons. I've seen stuff THAT CLOSE !!!

brewmonkey · 04-01-2005, 20:57

The closest I came to that is having a brother who was a 13M, a father who was an FO in Vietnam and then spent a career as a FA guy & I was born at Fort Sill. Other then that I try to stay as far away from arty as I can. Although we did have a close call in the central corridor of Fort Irwin during one rotation. A battery of M109's fired for HE rounds over Granite Pass and in to the central corridor. We were on top of Crash Hill and the rounds landed about 2000 meters to our direct front. That was as close as I would like to be.

**Peregrino** · 04-01-2005, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Ambush Master

When I went through Training Group, the 11 series came out "Dual" qualified 11B/11C Light and Heavy Weapons. I've seen stuff THAT CLOSE !!!

Close (non-combat) was 1978 on Range 44 during the "Q" Course. They were still teaching 4 weeks each heavy and light then too. Students were manually firing the M19 60mm mortars and they got excited, dropped a second round on top of the first and then fired it. Did I remember to mention it was an FPF exercise - charge 0, danger close? The bottom round pushed the top one out of the barrel where it fell off and dudded about 30M down range. The bottom round went about 50M and detonated on impact. I remember hearing a strange report when it fired and looking up to witness the two rounds seperating - they were moving pretty slowly. It's amazing how fast everyone can get small when running won't do any good. I still have a lot of respect for proper gun crew drills. We lost several hours of training because range control wouldn't let us clear the dud. We had to wait on EOD to show up (and use our demo to add insult to injury). Lost a 90RCLR in that class too. Those were the days. Peregrino

**The Reaper** · 04-01-2005, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Peregrino

We lost several hours of training because range control wouldn't let us clear the dud. We had to wait on EOD to show up (and use our demo to add insult to injury). Lost a 90RCLR in that class too. Those were the days. Peregrino

Well, that is what they get the big money for.

Could be worse. When we called in for a clearing team to clear a misfire on Coleman Demo (Range 69), EOD asked if we were SF and when we said yes, told us that we were on our own, they wanted nothing to do with our problems.

Something about infernal devices and Improvised, they must have been traumatized as children.

TR

**Peregrino** · 04-01-2005, 22:13

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

Well, that is what they get the big money for.

Could be worse. When we called in for a clearing team to clear a misfire on Coleman Demo (Range 69), EOD asked if we were SF and when we said yes, told us that we were on our own, they wanted nothing to do with our problems.

Something about infernal devices and Improvised, they must have been traumatized as children.

TR

You will appreciate this one. We lost the 90 because another student got excited (notice a pattern here?) and didn't properly engage the round when he loaded it. Instead of twisting it to align the driving band on the round with the rifling in the tube he jammed it in and tried to close the breech. He wedged it in so tightly it could not be removed. Since nobody wanted to take a cleaning rod and push on the live round from the muzzle end, the instructors closed the range and called for help. EOD came out (again), carried the rifle to the dud pit and tamped an electric cap against the nose of the round with copious quantities of cotton wadding. We all moved back the requisite distance and the set it off. Amazingly (probably not) it worked and popped the round out without detonating it. Unfortunately the cap bulged the barrel and destroyed the rifle. Not sure how the investigation concluded but there were some unhappy people in Kennedy Hall. Peregrino

**Ambush Master** · 04-01-2005, 22:21

FTX for the 11C . We had fired MANY rounds from the 4.2 and it had sunk the baseplate several feet into the sandy loam soil. I was in the "Pit" of the 4.2 when there was the heart stopping sound of the , intended to be shot, round hitting the bottom of the tube and nothing happened !! The Instructors questioned us and had us verbally run through the drill before they left the area !! We had 3-4 people in the Pit and conducted the proper IA Drill to clear the "Mis-Fire". Since I was 12 series (Combat Engineer) qualified (MOS) they had me catch the round as it sled out of the tube,carry it down range and then set a charge on it to render it GONE!!

Sdiver · 04-01-2005, 23:32

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Originally Posted by brewmonkey

There was a video early into OEF where they had a couple of guys in a HMMWV filming something when they started taking incoming. Within a few bits the allies started firing counter battery and the whole hillside was torn part. I will have to see if I can find that one.

Is this the one you were thinking about Brew?

http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/...s_20053823.asp

Scroll down below the pic and click on "video".

They're calling it as coming out of the Sandbox, but I remember when it was posted awhile ago, that it came out of A-stan.

jbour13 · 04-01-2005, 23:47

I've unfortunately been close to inbound friendly Arty. My last duty assignment afforded me the oppourtunity to set up company live fire lanes.

I was in the 25th ID(L), 1-27 INF. Myself and the BDE S-2 were going through the range setup and were in the process of tacking balloons up on targets in the trenchline (good intel training). The range we did this on was Pohakaloa Training Area on the big island (Hawaii).

While in the trenchline pasting targets the Battery assigned to do the fire missions began registering their rounds on "phased targets". These targets were supposed to be about a Km away and allow the range detail time to set-up as they registered and walked them in.

A young LT had been up for some time and transposed numbers in his grids and they sent one downrange. No BS, the 2 and I were on the reverse slope of a hill (fortunately a large one) when the 105mm round impacted.

I nearly $h!t a brick and ran to the HMMWV on the range quick enough to impress a world class sprinter.

The LT in question was promtly made an admin type upon his return from the FTX and was later removed for other bad juju.