why G2?

SupportSoldier · 02-13-2005, 09:03

Hey u guys said something about support guys G2ing the course, why would I do that, I know why, but to me it really wouldn't do any good, because it's solely up to u if you do or do not give up during the course. Just because i know what or where everything is doesn't mean that i'm not gonna quit. If I were to take the time out of my training regiment to G2 the course what should I look at? suggestions, comments, concerns.....

**The Reaper** · 02-13-2005, 09:48

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Originally Posted by SupportSoldier

Hey u guys said something about support guys G2ing the course, why would I do that, I know why, but to me it really wouldn't do any good, because it's solely up to u if you do or do not give up during the course. Just because i know what or where everything is doesn't mean that i'm not gonna quit. If I were to take the time out of my training regiment to G2 the course what should I look at? suggestions, comments, concerns.....

I suggest that your asking this question indicates to me that 1) you are not prepared for the course, and 2) you are not really SF material.

Anyone I catch G2ing the course, I recommend for relief.

Have a very non-SF Day.

TR

**Pete** · 02-13-2005, 10:19

For almost all SF related classes the question is "Did the guy make it or wash out?"

Guys who make it tend to say it was not as hard as everybody makes it out to be. A little hard here and there but no prblem.

Guys who wash out and are honest will tell the true about how hard the training was and why they were dropped.

A guy who is full of shit says the clasic line of something like "Yeah, I got there and found out they were full of shit and I told them they could shove the course." He got smoked bad and is too chicken to admit what happened to him.

G-2ing a course also has a big draw back. Things change a tad here and a bit there. The order of stuff changes, something new is added, something old deleted. When you come under stress and something changes it could blow your mental state and that is very bad. Don't need people who stress out on teams.

Best thing is to do what you're told, when you're told and the best you can. If somebody in charge tells you the sun is not coming up in the morning say "Roger that" and check your flashlight batteries.

Pete

**Team Sergeant** · 02-13-2005, 11:56

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Originally Posted by SupportSoldier

Hey u guys said something about support guys G2ing the course, why would I do that, I know why, but to me it really wouldn't do any good, because it's solely up to u if you do or do not give up during the course. Just because i know what or where everything is doesn't mean that i'm not gonna quit. If I were to take the time out of my training regiment to G2 the course what should I look at? suggestions, comments, concerns.....

SupportSoldier,

If you wish proper replies use proper English. Write like a 12 year old punk rock fan expect to be treated like one.

Read the Welcome and the board Rules before you post again.

Post in this fashion again and I’ll remove you from the board. I despise punks and those that act like punks. Get your shit together or take it elsewhere, you’ll not be warned again.

Team Sergeant

**18C4V** · 02-13-2005, 12:11

Hhmmm G-2,
OK here you go. Go to General Jackson right now and buy that pre shaped, pre shaved beret. You have to get it before they sell out. Usually they sell out right before graduation. You have to get that shadow box for your Yarborough knife. Also head to the airborne px and buy your long tab to include the Class A's. ( As a support guy you already have the abn tab and SF patch). You don't want to be that guy who gets to the px and it's all sold out. Get it sewn on now so that way you'll beat the rush at the cleaners. Go to your new language lab and get every CD to every language and learn every one of them. That way you'll be ready for any language SWC throws at you. Doing your PT sessions, run all over Canopy Lane, Mata Mile, Ardness St, and Coscom area so that way you cover all the MOS's PT area.

What are you still doing here reading this post? GO

Did I miss anything?

CPTAUSRET · 02-13-2005, 12:21

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Hhmmm G-2,

Did I miss anything?

You didn't wish him a proper send off response, ala AMF'r!

Terry

Guy · 02-13-2005, 12:34

I must have missed that Phase of the course...they kept changing things around.

I tried G2ing the 18D course and still got recycled.

I had to...
"Better to know and not need it than...to need it and not know."

Basenshukai · 02-13-2005, 17:23

A lot of people try to G2 a course. Honestly, whilst I was back at my original home station, the only thing I "G2'd" was the best physical training schedule to use for me specifically. I asked everyone and anyone who had gone and made it, or not, how they prepared. I sent away for a copy of the SAS Selection physical training manual (I forget the name. It was a small black book that I think is out of print now), the SFAS booklet, and the CCT/PJ Course book from Five Stars publishing. I got a good friend, who was also a "stud" physical fitness guy, to coach me on speed and distance running. Then, I spent the next three months working myself to the best shape of my life. I rucked, ran, swam and lifted weights every week. I prepared for the worst case scenario.

My idea was that if I got significantly hurt, only peak physical fitness and intestinal fortitude would see me through. I think this is the only way to "G2" the course. If you are trying to find the answers to "cheat" your way through, then, chances are that you won't make it past selection. If you do, chances are that you won't make it past the Q-Course. If you do, chances are that you won't make it past your first year in a team. New guys being fired from a team for not cutting it is not new. In fact, I just fired a guy last month from my team for the very reason. Accross the hall, another guy not only got fired, but got his SF tab taken from him. If you are trying to G2 for the wrong reasons, the "Regiment" will find a way out for you.

PS - That's the "1st SF Regiment" for those of you that don't "habla"... "comprende"?

SP5IC · 02-13-2005, 18:08

I feel really stupid, but what is G2ing; did we have it in SFTG, and did I miss a really good deal?

SupportSoldier · 02-13-2005, 22:05

Thanks for the responses i got. It's not a matter of myself trying to "beat the system," because in anything I want to "earn" everything I get. I volunteered not to go to the two week PLDC, not because I didn't think it wasn't good enough, I wanted to experience the course like past NCO's before me, I felt like I was being cheated if I went. The same with BAC. I didn't want to go to the two week course either , as far as I was concerned BAC was 3 weeks and I wanted all 3 three weeks. Now I would never G-2 the course I want to experience the way others have experienced I don't want to know what's next. For all I know the instructors over at SWTG could change the whole course up and do it backwards. I just asked because I have heard the idea more than once. The idea and the excuses of why it didn't work. When I get to that great place called "Camp McKall," I want and know it's going to be a ride like no other, that's why i've completed the preparation book twice, not once but twice and all I do right now is think about what i need do to make sure that i'm prepared. I don't want to have an excuse. It's like Master Yoda says, "do or do not." I don't want to come back and be the supportsoldier with the stories of why i didn't make it ......

SupportSoldier · 02-14-2005, 13:19

I would like to know if any of the Quiet Professionals, or SF candidates that have already completed SFAS have any memories from selection that makes them laugh everytime they think about it.

**18C4V** · 02-14-2005, 17:13

Sure,
The joke in my hut was when a guy quit. The first thing guys said "does he have a bottom bunk"? Or seeing a guy without his weapon on land and you point to yours and them to him, seeing the body language, the yell and the mad rush to go find it!!!

**Pete** · 02-14-2005, 17:55

SupportSoldier wrote - I would like to know if any of the Quiet Professionals .....have any memories from selection that makes them laugh ....

In 1974 Pahse I was something that could not be explained, just experienced.

We lived in GP medium tents and slept on bed frames covered with a sheet of plywood. We could only have what was on the packing list and everything fit in our rucksacks or on our bodies.

We got up at something like 0500 every morning and had to immediately clean up for the day and pack our rucks and sit them on the end of the bunk. Every few minutes a TAC would put out over the loudspeaker "The carryall will depart for Fort Bragg at 0615".

At 0600 the Flag went up and we immediately dropped into the Front Leaning rest position for the Ballad of the Green Berets followed by pushups to any and all who ever put on a Green Beret.

The funny thing was that all the time between 0500 and 0600 you would see somebody sit down on their bunk and "zone out". We'd say "there goes another one". Within a few minutes they would pick up their ruck and walk over to the carryall. Every moning as we did our pushups we would be looking right at the quiters and saying to ourselves "That will never be me".

Heck, once you had your ruck packed the day was all down hill. Heck, once the morning formation was out of the way the day was all down hill. And so on, and so on and so on through the day, the next day and the next.

Pete

SupportSoldier · 02-15-2005, 12:31

In both of those replies i found myself giggling. They were pretty funny. It's the harsh reality too. We had guys quit during Air Assault school like that. Every morning they ask you if u don't want to be here, fall out to the rear and pack your gear. It never failed that every morning we has one or two fall out.

**Pete** · 02-15-2005, 13:00

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In both of those replies i found myself giggling.

SuppotSoldier - It would be hard to find an SF guy giggling. Girls do that. I think your days will be numbered in the few not the many.

Some very quiet dude is going to mark your name down and you'll be gone before anybody can remember your name.

Prove us wrong, it's up to you.

Pete