Am I a little overly concerned??

[JJ_BPK]

Last nite while perusing online and TV news I suddenly realized Brandon (et all) need not do anything in the Putin Sanctions column as the American and World "Private Businesses" are for the most part doing the sanctions for him.

1)That's not the transparency I want from Brandon, nor any other World leader

2) Private Bussiness should not be the arbiter of Internation Politics


AT what point does "helpful" business become leaders of world politics AND economics?? 🧐😡

Visa, Mastercard suspend all operations in Russia, 'effective immediately'
The company says it felt 'compelled' to act

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...t5svnCxZGpaSCA


Russia-Ukraine war: Arizona ammo company to send 1 million rounds of ammo to Ukraine

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...t5svnCxZGpaSCA


Shell defends 'difficult' decision to buy Russian crude oil

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60...YfWddw1nhmQQac

IDK, Change my mind?? g

While I'm pontificating..
Thanks Vlad..

[GratefulCitizen]

When private businesses take such steps on their own, from the perspective of the affected, they just declared themselves to be belligerents in the conflict.
What happens when the responses escalate and become kinetic?

Are large corporations ready to have their board members “captured” or worse?
Are large tech companies ready to have the hardware side of their infrastructure sabotaged?

This is a horrible idea, but they’ve already acted.
Time will reveal the wisdom of their actions.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Last nite while perusing online and TV news I suddenly realized Brandon (et all) need not do anything in the Putin Sanctions column as the American and World "Private Businesses" are for the most part doing the sanctions for him.

1)That's not the transparency I want from Brandon, nor any other World leader

2) Private Bussiness should not be the arbiter of Internation Politics


AT what point does "helpful" business become leaders of world politics AND economics?? 🧐😡

Visa, Mastercard suspend all operations in Russia, 'effective immediately'
The company says it felt 'compelled' to act

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...t5svnCxZGpaSCA


Russia-Ukraine war: Arizona ammo company to send 1 million rounds of ammo to Ukraine

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...t5svnCxZGpaSCA


Shell defends 'difficult' decision to buy Russian crude oil

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60...YfWddw1nhmQQac

IDK, Change my mind?? g

While I'm pontificating..
Thanks Vlad..

That JJ is what the WEF and Klaus Schwab have been working towards for quite sometime. On a smaller scale Canada used the similar tactics last month with the truckers. It's only a matter of time before the same tactics will be used against average citizens.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-at-400pm-gmt/

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

When private businesses take such steps on their own, from the perspective of the affected, they just declared themselves to be belligerents in the conflict.
What happens when the responses escalate and become kinetic?

Are large corporations ready to have their board members “captured” or worse?
Are large tech companies ready to have the hardware side of their infrastructure sabotaged?

This is a horrible idea, but they’ve already acted.
Time will reveal the wisdom of their actions.

The IG Farben board and their executives didn't fare too well at Nuremberg. As you know, history gets written by the winner. Better win.

[GratefulCitizen]

Originally Posted by Badger52

The IG Farben board and their executives didn't fare too well at Nuremberg. As you know, history gets written by the winner. Better win.

Being on the “winning” side is just a step towards social credit scores and fascism.
If political activism becomes too large a part of the business model, holding the wrong political position will result in the business failing.

No good can come of this, win or lose.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

Being on the “winning” side is just a step towards social credit scores and fascism.
If political activism becomes too large a part of the business model, holding the wrong political position will result in the business failing.

No dispute there.

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

When private businesses take such steps on their own, from the perspective of the affected, they just declared themselves to be belligerents in the conflict.
What happens when the responses escalate and become kinetic?

Are large corporations ready to have their board members “captured” or worse?
Are large tech companies ready to have the hardware side of their infrastructure sabotaged?

This is a horrible idea, but they’ve already acted.
Time will reveal the wisdom of their actions.

IF, I say IF Biden gets out of the cellar could he write an EO asking American Business to.... as a CYA block on businesses being defined as belligerents?

Executive Order X01-2022 - Ah come-on America do what you can to hit Vlad in the pocketbook, with my permission..

[Box]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

..."Private Businesses" are for the most part doing the sanctions"

Sounds almost like an Oligarchy but its not.

What we have going on is nothing more than a select group of people from diverse backgrounds: nobility, fame, wealth, education, corporate leaders from the energy sector and the tech industry along with a handful of political representatives that are leveraging their wealth and power to get their way. Common in an oligarchy would be the rich (not the government) impacting your freedom of speech or limiting your individual liberties unless you submit to their demands.

An actual oligarchy may LOOK similar but they rely on public obedience and oppression to wield that power. Only "evil" nations can be ruled by an oligarchy. We the people are far to cosmopolitan to let such frivolous abuses of power take place here in the USA.
This is America - we have no oligarchy here.
Plutocracy is the softer more preferred word. "Pluto-cracy"
...because Pluto is a Disney character and thus, "cute" and tolerable.

Originally Posted by Paslode

It's only a matter of time before the same tactics will be used against average citizens.

...for whatever its worth, I'm pretty certain that all of the Canadian truckers view themselves as "average citizens".
I'm pretty sure that many Americans who have found themselves unable to use certain credit cards or online commerce venues because their purchase are firearms related.
I'd also bet a bottle of Gentleman Jack that there are TENS OF MILLIONS of Russians right now at this very moment that consider themselves "average citizens"

Its the average citizens that are impacted by this type of warfare because the "real" oligarchs aren't worried about money. The Panama papers incident has already proved that the rich and powerful are untouchable and can buy what they want when they want...
...just ask Bill Clinton's friend Jeffery and Hillary's friend Vince..


Now, get back to work. Peas will be served at their usual time.

[tom kelly]

Friends of the Clintons- - - Jeffery & Vince Bought the Farm.

[GratefulCitizen]

The most valuable thing in the world is trust.
Without trust, commerce grinds to a halt.

If private companies decide to flex on Russia, there are many ways they might respond.
Russia has a history of using scorched earth tactics.

What happens if they use scorched earth targeted in a way to affect international commerce?
Once trust starts to erode, it can snowball.

https://youtu.be/Lz4gCE4ccRM

[sfshooter]

Everyone these days are Social Justice Warriors. There is a reason I no longer purchase Anheuser-Busch, Under Armor, or Nike products. They have taken action and made a statement. Just like businesses are doing with this Ukraine debacle.

Lets take a step back and ask that question how are these SJW individuals (we support Ukraine) and companies going to react when China invades Taiwan? Will we be boycotting China like we are doing Russia now? It will be interesting to see considering all the support China has been given from all these SJW US citizens and companies.

[7624U]

Originally Posted by sfshooter

Everyone these days are Social Justice Warriors. There is a reason I no longer purchase Anheuser-Busch, Under Armor, or Nike products. They have taken action and made a statement. Just like businesses are doing with this Ukraine debacle.

Lets take a step back and ask that question how are these SJW individuals (we support Ukraine) and companies going to react when China invades Taiwan? Will we be boycotting China like we are doing Russia now? It will be interesting to see considering all the support China has been given from all these SJW US citizens and companies.

SJW's forget history also we did a lot of the same things to Japan before WW2.

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-us-and...war-ii-3310162

In July 1941, the U.S. completely embargoed resources to Japan and froze all Japanese assets in American entities. American policies forced Japan to the wall. With the approval of Japanese Emperor Hirohito, the Japanese Navy began planning to attack Pearl Harbor, the Philippines, and other bases in the Pacific in early December to open the route to the Dutch East Indies.

The Hull Note
The Japanese kept diplomatic lines open with the U.S. on the off chance they could negotiate an end to the embargo. Any hope of that vanished on November 26, 1941, when U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull handed Japanese ambassadors in Washington, D.C. what has come to be known as the "Hull Note."

The note said that the only way for the U.S. to remove the resource embargo was for Japan to:

Remove all troops from China.
Remove all troops from Indochina.
End the alliance it had signed with Germany and Italy the previous year.
Japan could not accept the conditions.
By the time Hull delivered his note to the Japanese diplomats, imperial armadas were already sailing for Hawaii and the Philippines. World War II in the Pacific was only days away.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Box

...for whatever its worth, I'm pretty certain that all of the Canadian truckers view themselves as "average citizens".
I'm pretty sure that many Americans who have found themselves unable to use certain credit cards or online commerce venues because their purchase are firearms related.
I'd also bet a bottle of Gentleman Jack that there are TENS OF MILLIONS of Russians right now at this very moment that consider themselves "average citizens"

Its the average citizens that are impacted by this type of warfare because the "real" oligarchs aren't worried about money. The Panama papers incident has already proved that the rich and powerful are untouchable and can buy what they want when they want...
...just ask Bill Clinton's friend Jeffery and Hillary's friend Vince..


Now, get back to work. Peas will be served at their usual time.

Agreed Box, a more apt description would be unsuspecting people, like the tens of millions of Russian's you mentioned who essentially woke up and found their canceled and defunded for merely living in Russia.

[Old Dog New Trick]

The way this has been handled so far, the world is gunna feel a royal fucking right up the ass!

The OPEC nations have already signaled support for Putin, and will not muster the effort to ease oil’s shortage around the world.

Before long we’ll be cutting secret deals with Iran to provide oil so’s we don’t upset the snowflakes with buying Russian oil and gas.

China is waiting to see how this all plays out and then strike many economic deals with everyone in Asia to raise costs on everything we’ve come to rely upon.

This will not end well and A-ME-rica and Europea will wish someone else; anyone else, was occupying the White House!

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

The way this has been handled so far, the world is gunna feel a royal fucking right up the ass!

The OPEC nations have already signaled support for Putin, and will not muster the effort to ease oil’s shortage around the world.

Before long we’ll be cutting secret deals with Iran to provide oil so’s we don’t upset the snowflakes with buying Russian oil and gas.

China is waiting to see how this all plays out and then strike many economic deals with everyone in Asia to raise costs on everything we’ve come to rely upon.

This will not end well and A-ME-rica and Europea will wish someone else; anyone else, was occupying the White House!

Yep..we (this administration) wants to be friends with everyone - including those that hate us a.k.a our enemies. So Mr. Iran...what can we do to help you help us....